We should talk about gun control next..
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Michael Gale wrote: > > Please ... if a MCSE is in charge of a network and something happens, like > everyone on the network gets the MSBLASTER worm then the MCSE is as much at fault as > Microsoft is. > > Microsoft builds the piece of sh*t but the MCSE are the ones pushing it down > everyone's throat saying "Look at how user friend and secure this is". > > Any real MCSE would know that windows is crap and should therefor do a better job of > protecting the internal network. > > Michael. > > > > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:42:17 -0500 (CDT) > Ron DuFresne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Schmehl, Paul L wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Bryan K. Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:46 AM > > > > To: 'Byron Copeland'; 'Ron DuFresne'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by > > > > W32Blaster] (fwd) > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a load of B.S. if I ever heard it. > > > > > > > > I can attest to the fact that this is indeed.... NOT BS... > > > > > > > > True, there are a bunch of MCSE's that are on top of > > > > things....however, there are way too many scam artists with > > > > MCSE's who only give a damn about getting a bigger consulting > > > > fee than securing their customer's networks. > > > > > > And of course there isn't a single *nix consultant around who isn't > > > worth his/her weight in gold and doing an absolutely fabulous job...... > > > > > > Shitty people come in all shapes and sizes and infest every profession. > > > They're as unavoidable as air. > > > > Kinda feeling like all fingers point home huh? > > > > Why blame the poor MCSE's when one should perhaps fault the vendor again, > > for not only failing to provide a viable patching system that does not > > overburden these folks, but also undertrains them in perperation for the > > world of hurt they are about to be employed in. > > > > There, that should satisfy all those indignant MCSE's that try to do the > > right thing, but are swamped with the rate of and poor quality of patches > > they have to deal with. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ron DuFresne > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It > > eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the > > business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart > > ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!*** > > > > OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
