I am not used to get involved in discussions but i'm tired of hearing bullshit so here it goes..
Bill said: ... Anybody who kept their software up to date didn't run into any of those problems, because the fixes preceded the exploit... I say: One of the reasons is because independent security researchers are being nice with vendors. Well, i was going to make comments on all what Bill said but i'm tired. Latelly CEOs of big companies (Microsoft, Oracle, etc.) have been talking bullshit, if they would spend more money in QA, security testing, etc. than marketing the world would be different, but that's another history this is a capitalist world the last end is to have good sales. I say shut up and fix your buggy software and be thankful that security researchers are being nice with you, your sales depends a lot on how vulnerabilities are disclosed and how your software is trusted, so SHUT UP. PS: Hey Bill, do you use Outlook for e-mails? I bet you use a text only e-mail client, you don't want anyone hacking you, or is your personal computer running Linux? :) Cesar. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
