On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:58:56 PST, Jeremiah Cornelius said:

> None of this posturing affects Winders security - just press releases and 
> dubious "off-white" papers.  The next Blaster waits around the corner.  
> Bolting IPSec to a turd won't help!

Turds in closed boxes don't stink up the room as badly as turds out of boxes.

But they're still turds.

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