> -----Original Message----- > From: Erik van Straten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:05 AM > To: Schmehl, Paul L > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Flawed arguments (Was all that > other crap about PFW day) > > > > With ABS you can drive much closer to the car in front of > you. With > > > AV and a PFW people tend to believe it is safe to run any exe (or > > > hta). Marketing helps making people believe this. > > > > > I have to agree with you here. It's been made obvious to me by the > > posts today in this thread. > > Explain this contradiction in your rant and we may talk > The previous poster complains that PFWs fool people into thinking that they are more secure. Several other posters have cited the fact that most *nixes now come with "the firewall enabled", which obviously means they think that makes *nix more secure. So, they believe, simply by having iptables (or whatever) enabled, they are more secure.
Yet they see no contradiction between their belief in the added security of *nix firewalls and their contention that Windows PFWs give a false sense of security with no real benefit. I have to admit, on a security list, I'm a bit surprised to see this sort of flawed argumentation, but I guess I shouldn't be. Their hatred of Microsoft blinds them. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
