>>This is not, *technically* SNMP, as it is not using it's assigned ports.
>>This is a variant, and interestingly, that port is assigned to
>>
>>               empire-empuma   1691/tcp    empire-empuma
>>               empire-empuma   1691/udp    empire-empuma
>>
>>Unless Sysedge is the decendant of "empire-empuma", it doesn't belong
>>there either
>>Unfortunately, the odds of this kind of newbie being able to
>>successfully utilize it are slim.  Still, if he is going to ask for
>>help with odd packets, he must be able to document them, and this is
>>the standard way to do so.

Oh, I get it.  So if root executes "sshd -p 45522"  --this is not *technically* ssh, 
right?  Learn that at MCSE school?  ;o) Heh heh.  Just kidding.  But really, precisely 
what pprotocol does it become on port 45522?  What if the only "Listen" directive in 
my httpd.conf says: "Listen 45580"?  Is it *technically* not an http server?  And 
you're flaming newbies?  Come on, Alif.  Give the guy a break, will you?  He'll learn 
to ask the right questions, and give you what you need to help him.  Someday we're 
gonna need this guy to help the newbies that come after him.  Do we really want to 
teach him that the way to do that is through insults and abuse until the newbie asks 
the questions the way HE wants them asked?  You're a better man than that.  You've 
been around a long time, and it's easy to take ALL of that experience and knowledge 
for granted.  You know who that often sets up unreasonable expectations of the 
wide-eyed does just coming up.  When Mr.muthanna tried to help, and corrected you, he 
did it with class and a genuine interest in helping.  I applaud him for that.  
Billybob is looking at his external interface and trying to figure out who's trying to 
get in, right?  So he's at least headed in the right direction.  Let's support that 
instead of stomping on him for being new.  The people to flame are the lazy, 
windows-licking dumbasses who aren't asking for help.

I hope all is well with you, and often wonder how you're doing.


Additionally, Sysedge is an SNMP Management Product marketed by (Concord)Empire 
Technologies, and it does belong on port 1691.

Best Regards,

Marto  


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