On topic now..... What would be the defining parts of a black hat for a sys/net/etc admin to understand.
1. Boredom - more brains than hobbies 2. Needs - burstable bandwidth - downloads - knowledge - bragin rights 3. Challenges 4. Other Please expand on these so we can classify what it is that makes a blackhat other than M$ and or FUD. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:12:30 PDT, Cory Crawford said: > >What's interesting is how many jackasses are out there defending these guys > > What's interesting is people who can't identify the difference between > "defending" and "understanding". And if you paid attention, I never said we > don't do Bad Things ourselves - "they're not that different than us" cuts > *both* ways..... > > To make it on-topic - if you're trying to do security, you have to > *understand* > your opponent. You don't have to defend a black-hat's mindset - but you're > pretty well screwed trying to stop a black hat if you don't have at least a > clue of what the black hat's motivations are. > > Similarly, if you base your defences against suicide bombers on the theory > that > they're all poor, uneducated, and suicidal, you won't do a very good job in > stopping the majority of them that are intelligent and well-educated and > motivated > to reclaim their country. > > Remember the "Afghani freedom fighters" that we funded to get the Soviets out > of Afghanistan? Yep.. that's where al Quada came from. And it's foolish on > our part to call them "freedom fighters" when they're trying to throw *our* > enemy (the Soviets) out of *their* country, and then be upset when they're > trying to throw *us* out of *their* country... Failure on our part to > understand that - in the terrorist's view - they're just as morally justified > as the French Resistance was during World War II, and for the same reasons > (removing morally reprehensible invaders from your own country), merely > guarantees that we can't "win" that war.. > > > Where's the outrage of the slavery and rape being condone by governments in > > Africa, India, and other countries? You should really try thinking on your > own > > and doing research in more places than your political wacko websites and > movies > > by insane conspiracy theorists. > > You're making the extremely dubious assumption that just because the outrage > isn't on this list, that it doesn't exist. Remember, the "designated protest > zone" > is several blocks over, where nobody can see it... :) > > The news regarding the military history of the recently surrendered terrorist > and the loss of GW Bush's military records were both carried on CNN and other > major news services. I *will* however admit that pointing out the > juxtaposition of the two was due to that "political wacko conspiracy > theorist" > Jay Leno... > > > Your ignorance and hate of yourselves and human beings in general is worse > > than stupid. It's pitful. > > What's *really* pitiful is your typing that in response to my posting, which > was attempting to dispel ignorance..... > > > One day you will learn this and it'll be likely that this lesson will be > > learned as those whom you praise are blowing your stupid butts to oblivion. > > > It's far more likely that my butt will be blown to oblivion due to my failure > to > *understand* my opponent, than due to my non-existent attempt to praise them. > > And that's why I make an attempt to *understand* the adversary... > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature ===== *----------------------------------------------------------* Andrew Latham AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) - LATHAMA.COM [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If yahoo.com is down we have bigger problems than my email! *----------------------------------------------------------* _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
