Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2004.09.10 03:14:10 +0000: > * Rainer Duffner: > > >> Personally, I can't comprehend how the default for something like that > >> would be "Yes", > > > > Because, if the ISP is bankrupt, the "YES" will never come. > > And that's a problem because of ...?
Operations. Some of us call it daily business. > DENIC (the registry) claims to have a direct contractual relationship > with all domain holders (not "owners", registering a domain doesn't > grant you ownership, at least most of the time). Which means what, if you chose a "cheap domain" wholesale provider who "accidentally" sets himself as admin-c? Which means what, if you happen to _move_ a domain from one provider to another, implying consent between the two ISPs involved? > In theory, you would resolve such a problem with DENIC. In practice, > DENIC doesn't have the infrastructure to deal with bankruptcy even of > a small DENIC member/registrar. DENIC could not care less, if your current ISP's gone bankrupt or what not. It is not their business. You mail in a KK (request for "connectivity coordination") and they process it. Finito. If your ISP does not answer the request, the KK will be ACKed, which is a good thing. Also, provider "lock-in" is not possible this way. No provider can block your domain for transfer without a "NACK", which would have dire consequences when it hits the courts. > > IMHO (and several others more involved in the domain-trading biz) > > The problem is that domains are used for more things than just for > domain trading. The current focus on easy domain transfers might have > made sense a few years ago, but now there are some major stakeholders > which will simply put DENIC out of the loop if the DENIC processes > can't guarantee stable delegations, for whatever reason. DENIC is probably just the messenger in this game. Don't shoot'em. If a 3rd party registry acts on behalf of their customers with DENIC, they need to play by the rules. If they don't, the customer has a problem. FWIW, I get unauthorized KK requests every now and then, which are passed to me by my ISP. I NACK them, end of story. My ISP plays by the DENIC rules and passes me the requests in-time, so it's no biggie. Regards, /k -- > Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips > over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. > --Matt Groening webmonster.de -- InterNetWorkTogether -- built on the open source platform http://www.webmonster.de/ - ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ - http://www.rohrbach.de/ GnuPG: 0xDEC948A6 D/E BF11 83E8 84A1 F996 68B4 A113 B393 6BF4 DEC9 48A6 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 10x _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
