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From: Larry Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael,

Windows XP home edition hides the administrator account and disables access
to it entirely even from a manual login unless you are in safe mode.  This
seems to be the most likely explaination of this "hidden" admin account.

Regards,
Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Wilson, Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: Vulnerability in IBM Windows XP: default hidden Administrator
account allows local Administrator access


> Negative.
>
> In previous versions of Windows (NT core), the install would allow you to
> simply strike <enter> at the appropriate time, when being queried for an
> administrator password, and voila -> the administrative password would be
> blank.
>
> Windows XP manual install will ask if you are sure, while warning of the
> implications, and if you insist it disallows network access to the
> administrator account to limit WAN or LAN hacking.  I was working IA at a
> major university when this, administrator account logins checking for
blank
> or the password "password", became quite a problem.  The response would
> often be, "I forgot to reset after the install!"  I pushed a domain policy
> denying access to the local administrator password from the network,
> regardless of what the password was.
>
> Windows has instituted the same by default, thereby limiting this exploit
to
> a console login, if the password hash = blank hash.
>
> It is most likely the Vendor Install Customization that has caused this
> issue, as true enough, most vendor installs force you to pick an
> administrator password before using the system.  If the account is hidden,
> then it is definitely IBM's doing as I have never seen a Windows install
> where the administrator account could not be seen under the accounts tab.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Michael Wilson CISSP (Contractor)
> Lockheed Martin Space Operations
> Computer Security Specialist
> NAVO-MSRC
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 228-688-4393
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:59 AM
> To: Michael Scheidell; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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> Subject: Re: Vulnerability in IBM Windows XP: default hidden
> Administrator account allows local Administrator access
>
>
> This "hidden" Administrator account is part of Windows XP and NOT IBM's
> porblem.
> Every Windows XP system ships and installs with the Administrator and
blank
> password.
> This "hidden" account has been known about for some time, just like
Windows
> 2000
> Administrator account is the same way. There are ways to disable or change
> the
> Administrator name and password or to disable the account completely.
> --
> Chris Norton
> UAT Student Software Engineering Network Defense
>
>
>

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