We all know it doesn't take a lot to hide from the normal everyday user on the internet. I believe that is what they meant by "hide from everything". Of course it isn't completely hidden. But normal users are not sniffing packets from a computer on a isolated network to find things.
We live in a different world than the normal person, that is what I tell my non-computer friends anyways. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GuidoZ Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:54 AM To: Matt Cc: Will Image; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Rootkit For Spyware? Hide your adware from all Adware removers and Anti-viruses > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is > often done by various malware. Aye. I didn't word my statements correctly. (Was tired... =P ) You are very much correct. I guess I was trying to speak along the lines of AV detection and forensics. I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user. There is always a way to find it. Granted, they can bypass the "usual means" (regedit, taskmanager, etc) in Windows, however there are specialized tools (process viewers for example) that show hidden processes. What I meant to express is they seem to claim being able to hide from everything. (Even if an AV solution detected the very program they use as an installer.) That, I doubt. To save someone else from saying this, I'll reply to my own comment. =) > I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is COMPLETLY > hidden, in every aspect, from the user. Well, DUH. How could you find it if it was COMPLETELY hidden? ;) Clarification: The user and a sysadmin that has a clue are two very different people.) -- Peace. ~G On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:38:34 +1000, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GuidoZ wrote: > > Interesting indeed. Although, I imagine this was a spam email, and I > > never believe (nor buy) anything from spam. I wondr how credible > > this really is. If there was such a way to do what they claim, don't > > you think it would have been big news? >One would think you > > wouldn't first hear about it through spam. > > > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is > often done by various malware. > > > Also - nice website they have. http://www.randexsoft.com Simply says: > > > > Access Forbidden -- Go away. > > > > I love a company who is customer friendly. > > > > -- > > Peace. ~G > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:10:28 -0700 (PDT), Will Image > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I recieved this in my inbox today: > >>how long do you think this company will last? > >> > >> > >>>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:02:44 -0400 > >>>From: Jacques Tremblay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers and Anti-viruses > >>> > >>>To: Business development manager > >>> > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers and > >>>Anti-viruses > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi, > >>> Adware removers are gaining in popularity and they cause a > >>>big revenue threat to adware based businesses, as we see our > >>>software installations get desinstalled after a period of time that > >>>is shorter and shorter, we see our revenues get smaller and > >>>smaller. > >>> > >>> Why would an honest adware based business lose revenue just > >>>because some adware remover has identifyed it as being something to > >>>remove ? > >>> > >>> We beleive we have the right to hide from these adware > >>>removers as long as we provide a way for the user to uninstall and > >>>that he agrees that the software will be uninstalled only with the > >>>provided uninstaller. > >>> > >>> It is in that spirit that we created the solution to the > >>>problem : > >>> > >>> > >>>AdProtector 1.2 > >>> > >>> > >>> We have developed software capable of hiding your software > >>>from all adware removers and anti-viruses on a Windows > >>>NT/2000/2003/XP machine. > >>> > >>> Basically we have filtered the windows kernel so that we > >>>could mofify the behavior of the system itself. So now we can hide > >>>anything we want from windows. > >>> > >>> It can : - Hide Registry Keys > >>> - Hide Files > >>> - Hide Processes > >>> > >>> By hiding these 3 key elements from windows, your > >>>application won't ever be detected by any adware removers. > >>> > >>> Interesting ? > >>> > >>> For more information or to resquest a Demo : > >>> email : > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>>Business is moving fast, keep ahead of the competition! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > > > -- Peace. ~G _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
