I guess my comment further down was overlooked: GuidoZ said: > To save someone else from saying this, I'll reply to my own comment. =) > > > I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is > > COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user. > > Well, DUH. How could you find it if it was COMPLETELY hidden? ;) > Clarification: The user and a sysadmin that has a clue are two very > different people.)
-- Peace. ~G On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:34:33 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because you have never seen it means it doesn't exist? If it was > "COMPLETELY hidden", maybe you just never found it. > > > > > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is often > > > done by various malware. > > > > Aye. I didn't word my statements correctly. (Was tired... =P ) You are > > very much correct. > > > > I guess I was trying to speak along the lines of AV detection and > > forensics. I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is > > COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user. There is always a > > way to find it. Granted, they can bypass the "usual means" (regedit, > > taskmanager, etc) in Windows, however there are specialized tools > > (process viewers for example) that show hidden processes. What I meant > > to express is they seem to claim being able to hide from everything. > > (Even if an AV solution detected the very program they use as an > > installer.) That, I doubt. > > > > > > To save someone else from saying this, I'll reply to my own comment. =) > > > > > I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is > > > COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user. > > > > Well, DUH. How could you find it if it was COMPLETELY hidden? ;) > > Clarification: The user and a sysadmin that has a clue are two very > > different people.) > > > > -- > > Peace. ~G > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:38:34 +1000, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > GuidoZ wrote: > > > > Interesting indeed. Although, I imagine this was a spam email, and I > > > > never believe (nor buy) anything from spam. I wondr how credible this > > > > really is. If there was such a way to do what they claim, don't you > > > > think it would have been big news? >One would think you wouldn't > first > > > > hear about it through spam. > > > > > > > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is often > > > done by various malware. > > > > > > > Also - nice website they have. http://www.randexsoft.com Simply says: > > > > > > > > Access Forbidden -- Go away. > > > > > > > > I love a company who is customer friendly. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Peace. ~G > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:10:28 -0700 (PDT), Will Image > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>I recieved this in my inbox today: > > > >>how long do you think this company will last? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:02:44 -0400 > > > >>>From: Jacques Tremblay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers > > > >>>and Anti-viruses > > > >>> > > > >>>To: Business development manager > > > >>> > > > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers > > > >>>and Anti-viruses > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Hi, > > > >>> Adware removers are gaining in popularity and > > > >>>they cause a big > > > >>>revenue threat to adware based businesses, as we see > > > >>>our software > > > >>>installations get desinstalled after a period of > > > >>>time that is shorter > > > >>>and shorter, we see our revenues get smaller and > > > >>>smaller. > > > >>> > > > >>> Why would an honest adware based business > > > >>>lose revenue just because > > > >>>some adware remover has identifyed it as being > > > >>>something to remove ? > > > >>> > > > >>> We beleive we have the right to hide from > > > >>>these adware removers as > > > >>>long as we provide a way for the user to uninstall > > > >>>and that he agrees > > > >>>that the software will be uninstalled only with the > > > >>>provided > > > >>>uninstaller. > > > >>> > > > >>> It is in that spirit that we created the > > > >>>solution to the problem : > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>AdProtector 1.2 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> We have developed software capable of hiding > > > >>>your software from all > > > >>>adware removers and anti-viruses on a Windows > > > >>>NT/2000/2003/XP machine. > > > >>> > > > >>> Basically we have filtered the windows kernel > > > >>>so that we could mofify > > > >>>the behavior of the system itself. So now we can > > > >>>hide anything we want > > > >>>from windows. > > > >>> > > > >>> It can : - Hide Registry Keys > > > >>> - Hide Files > > > >>> - Hide Processes > > > >>> > > > >>> By hiding these 3 key elements from windows, > > > >>>your application won't > > > >>>ever be detected by any adware removers. > > > >>> > > > >>> Interesting ? > > > >>> > > > >>> For more information or to resquest a Demo : > > > >>> email : > > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > > > >>>Business is moving fast, keep ahead of the > > > >>>competition! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Peace. ~G > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > -- Peace. ~G _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. 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