Blah blah blah, it's about as useful as the war on drugs. Certin drugs are illegal, it hasn't eliminated much, pirated software is illegal, an old lady asked me for a copy of xp yesterday. You arn't going to get it all. Most laws are nothing more then a basis for prosecution. People still murder, but law puts them behind bars. Some innocents will get hurt but war is hell right? This is a step in the right direction and will provide clear grounds for prosecuting criminals who are caught. Hopefully the ones who contribute the most to the problem. Personally I don't see a single aspect of this law that hurts hacking.
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:46:51 -0400, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, clearly laws don't always work and people find loopholes. So > instead of making new ones to compensate, lets just stop. > > Great idea. I'm surprised that the law enforcement community has not > come to this conclusion. > > ...And don't both discussing the appropriate changes to make to > existing flawed laws or the prevention of new inappropriate laws. > Lets just be negative, pass blame, and not be proactive about a > solution. > > Are there any professionals on this list, or just people who like to > rant about policies and companies that they don't like? > > "By a 399-1 vote, House members approved legislation prohibiting > "taking control" of a computer, surreptitiously modifying a Web > browser's home page, or disabling antivirus software without proper > authorization." > > Yes, clearly this is a law against "hacking"... *sigh* > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:07:38 -0500, Todd Towles > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why make more computer laws...when the current computer laws can not be > > enforced correctl? We all know that the CAN-SPAM Act really cut the spam > > out of our e-mails *sigh* Then the INDUCE act will make half the stuff > > in a normal person's house illegal. > > > > Making laws is just playing around...paper on top of paper doesn't stop > > anything. It all falls back to the old saying - Action speaks louder > > than words. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > Gregory Gilliss > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:04 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] House approves spyware legislation > > > > > > Great, Not that I'm any fan of spyware, but this is just > > > another law against hacking. Think - what's the difference > > > between this and someone using XSS to "take control" of a > > > computer? If you r00t a box and deface the home page, then > > > you've broken this law. > > > > > > <sigh> Instead of fixing the problem (poor software security) > > > we pass laws to punish the people who do the things that > > > illustrate the problem. > > > Basic philosophical differences, blah blah blah ... > > > > > > Worst of all, do you really think that the spyware rackets > > > will slow down or cease because of this? Nope - they'll just > > > migrate out of the jurisdiction. > > > > > > -- Greg > > > > > > On or about 2004.10.06 06:03:18 +0000, RandallM > > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. House of Representatives voted late Tuesday to > > > restrict some > > > > of the most deceptive forms of spyware. > > > > > > > > By a 399-1 vote, House members approved legislation prohibiting > > > > "taking control" of a computer, surreptitiously modifying a Web > > > > browser's home page, or disabling antivirus software > > > without proper authorization. > > > > > > > > > > > http://news.com.com/House+approves+spyware+legislation/2100-1028_3-539 > > > > 7822.h > > > > tml?tag=nefd.top > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > Randall M > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > > > > -- > > > Gregory A. Gilliss, CISSP > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Computer Security WWW: > > > http://www.gilliss.com/greg/ > > > PGP Key fingerprint 2F 0B 70 AE 5F 8E 71 7A 2D 86 52 BA B7 83 > > > D9 B4 14 0E 8C A3 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > > > -- > -Micheal > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
