On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Chris Blask wrote: > At 03:25 PM 3/11/2007, Drsolly wrote: > > > ...now I miss that point. The state owns the property on my property > > > and that is still somehow inalienable property rights for me, the > > > citizen? Yes, I wish my property belonged to me, that being kinda > > > the theme song of inalienable property rights... > > >Likewise in this case. If you own a piece of land, there might be a > >right of way across it, in which case you don't have the right to put up a > >fence that blocks that right of way. There might also be a covenant to > >manitain your fences that you agreed to when you bought the property. It > >might also specify that another person has grazing rights on part of your > >property, and another one has the right to gather firewood. > > > >Now you might *wish* that you owned all those rights. But that doesn't > >mean you do, or that you should. > > > >However, the rights that you do have on your property, are inalienable. > > >Hope that explains what I meant. > > I hear what you are saying, but the point is that the state in this > case took so many of the rights that what was left is arguably > without much value and does not represent "owning the land". By the
That just means "I want more rights than I currently have". > Victorian deed the holder of the property had the right to live on > it, but owned neither what was above the soil nor what is below the > soil. That does not leave a lot of room to inalienably own anything > as far as real estate is concerned... The fact that I don't own the air that I breathe, has never bothered me. And since I'm not trying to run a coal mine, if I don't have the right to dig a mine on my land, that doesn't bother me either. Although maybe I do have that right. Like I said, since I'm not prospecting for coal, I'm not bothered. > Fortunately those terms and conditions no longer apply, I can fell my > own timber and dig my own sand. The Jon Stewart book "America, > Democracy Inaction" has a great bit on this <sic> "Canada over > decades of negotiation with the British Monarchy earned the right to > dry cod on land in Canada". That's freedom for you! ;~) No, it's capitalism. If you don't own the right to something, then you have to purchase that right, or swap it for something else, or negotiate something, or do without. I currently do not have the right to build an atomic power station on my land. Indeed, I don't even have the right to build seventeen more houses on my land. If I wanted either of those rights, I'd have to take action to acquire them, just like if I want a book, I have to go buy it. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
