On Mon, 14 May 2007, Brian Loe wrote: > On 5/14/07, Drsolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > The only way a cop has to know of most drunk drivers is to pull them > > > over for something else. By then they've committed a crime of some > > > sort > > > > Rubbish. Someone might drive into a tree. That's not a crime. But then > > if you test them for alcohol and find they're drunk, then they've been > > recklessly endangering everyone around them. > > So you admit that cops are only involved after the fact and therefore > the law did nothing to prevent the drunk from hitting the tree?
I'm really not too bothered if a drunk wrecks his own car. It's his recklessness getting me killed that infringes my rights. > > > You've often stated that you enjoy visiting the pub, and having good > > > beer. Do you walk? Does England not have a public intoxication law? Or > > > public nuisance law? > > > > It's very simple. If I drink, then I don't drive. If I'm driving, I don't > > drink. It's very simple, and very easy to do. > > Easier than answering a question even, eh? I answered it. I might walk, or someone else might drive me, or I might get a bus or a train. But I wouldn't drive. No, we don't have a public intoxication law. You can be drunk in public, that's your problem (unless your driving a car, then it's a problem for other people too). Yes, we have a public nuisance law. > > Once again, there's such a thing as recklessly endangering other people. > > Getting tanked up and trying to control a ton of hurtling vehicle is just > > that. > > Agreed, if that's what they're doing - as observed by a copy watching > the swerve going down the road or what have you. Well hurrah! You're agreeing that getting druk and driving a car should be illegal! I was wrong, maybe you are educable. > > > I suppose you'd be cool about someone firing a gun ionto a crowd of > > people, provided he was lucky enough to not actually hit anyone. > > No reasonable sane person would believe that one could fire a gun into > a crowd and not hurt someone. Plenty of reasonable people have gotten > behind the wheel of a car and that exactly that - and most don't hurt > people. Good! So you agree that reckless endangerment should be a crime, even if someone isn't actually hurt. So now you understand why we have drunk-driving laws. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
