On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Larry Seltzer wrote: > >>Wow....less than 30 years earlier than the US - with a LOT more > experience in such matters. Guess Solly's adopted home isn't so > benevolent after all.... > > I could take issue with the Doctor's characterization of relative > freedoms in the US and UK (which included all of Ireland until this past > century), but all countries have things in their past to be ashamed of. > Looking over history with a broad perspective, the US and UK are both > beacons of freedom, and our own traditions for civil liberties come > entirely from the founding fathers' perception of themselves as > Englishmen and their love of the freedoms of Englishmen. This is a > stupid thing to argue over. Very true.
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