> This is so naively stupid I could rant for hours...
>
> -joel

Why rant for hours when you can post it to funsec and let the list rant for
hours for me.
Outsourcing kicks ass!  :)

-joel

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:08 PM
To: Brian Loe
Cc: Joel R. Helgeson; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [funsec] GSS warns that hackers can now destroy hardware

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:57:23 CDT, Brian Loe said:
> On 9/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > What would constitute a non-rigged demo for you? Live, production
systems?
> >
> > Roll the NBC Dateline footage of the exploding pickup truck again...
> 
> That was that, this is this. This is where cynicism becomes a 
> hindrance to progress.

Maybe if there had been a bit more cynicism being a hindrance, we'd not have
had the progress into a war based on the intelligence equivalent of a rigged
demo.

> > There's a world of difference between a "see, it could happen" video 
> > and something we actually need to worry about.
> 
> This is something we actually need to worry about.

I never said it wasn't.  What I objected to was the rigged demo and then the
implication that the sky is falling because every power plant had the same
issue.




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