Admittedly, I didn't like the term either, but it is a correct usage in spite of the stigma associated with it. I was talking to a 'cop', and to a cop anyone outside law enforcement who takes down phishing sites is called a vigilante. It seems that *they* don't attach the stigma to it that we do. Not to be pedantic but a vigilante is "One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands."
We need another word, and I'm not voting for "Community Enforcement Officer"... On second thought your honor, I can see this thread turning into another "redefining the meaning of 0Day" so I hereby withdraw my question and petition the court to have this entire thread stricken from the record. -joel -----Original Message----- From: Gadi Evron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:41 PM To: Joel R. Helgeson Cc: 'Paul Ferguson'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [funsec] Law Enforcement at Disadvantage in War on Cyber Crime On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Joel R. Helgeson wrote: > An aside on this issue is a conversation I had with a Federal Agent about > cybercrime - (no, I wasn't being interrogated)... > That the majority of policing the net is done by vigilantes; they are the > ones who respond to phishing scams, email, etc. Something we need to > appreciate/realize is that being a cyber-cop is part and parcel of being a > Netizen. Use the term vigilante and I will cut off your ears. :P Kidding, but seriously, it has gotten us into trouble before. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Paul Ferguson > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [funsec] Law Enforcement at Disadvantage in War on Cyber Crime > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Via GCN.com. > > [snip] > > The two things law enforcement and government need to combat the epidemic > of cybercrime is better information sharing and better information to > share, a panel of security experts on Capitol Hill concluded Monday. > > The panel was put together by the Advisory Committee to the Congressional > Internet Caucus to discuss cybersecurity threat assessment. The picture > they painted was a familiar one of increasingly sophisticated online > criminals responsible for a global crime wave that law enforcement has > neither the technical nor legal resources to combat. > > [snip] > > More: > http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/45285-1.html > > - - ferg > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.3 (Build 3017) > > wj8DBQFHHRbTq1pz9mNUZTMRAv4rAJ0cF5H0MwJArMyWUXNCUL/8yisk6ACgxOrG > y13DAxXUX1OoU5I+i59D0Lw= > =JE3L > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson > Engineering Architecture for the Internet > fergdawg(at)netzero.net > ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
