To be fair, I'd agree with that statement.  If you take the CIA triad as
gospel for security, it *is* impossible to make wireless truly available
over RF.  I imagine it is theoretically possible to protect against MITM and
that kind of stuff, but for it to be available, especially in a combat
environment, runs into some problems with the physics.

On Dec 19, 2007 5:04 AM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So you're saying it's impossible to make wireless communications secure?
> This is a rather bold statement. I've never heard anyone go that far
> before.
>
> And let's assume the worst, one of the boxes gets stolen and any local
> security features on it fail and there's no way to remotely disable it.
> What abuse can you do with a fingerprint database?
>
> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of scott
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [funsec] This is scary
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> Linking back to a database through a RF medium is inherently
> insecure.Almost regardless of encryption or RX methods.Satellite,
> notwithstanding.
> MITM,possibly?Corruption of transmitted data?
>
> Also,just getting a hold of a box or laptop could set someone up in a
> bad way!Same as now,only stepped up a notch.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Larry Seltzer wrote:
> > Why is it scary? Police have been using fingerprint evidence for about
>
> > 100 years.
> >
> > Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> > http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
> > Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scott Sent:
> > Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject:
> > [funsec] This is scary
> >
> > - From the Washington Post
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007
> > 11
> > 3002302_pf.html
> >
> > snip
> >
> > Duong's most recent innovation, the Joint Expeditionary Forensics
> > Facilities (JEFF) project or "lab in a box," analyzes biometrics.
> > It will be delivered to Iraq at the beginning of 2008, the Navy said,
> > to help distinguish insurgents from civilians.
> >
> > "The best missile is worthless if you don't know who to shoot,"
> > Duong said.
> >
> > Betro said the military has been scanning the irises and taking the
> > fingerprints of Iraqis, feeding a biometrics data base in West
> > Virginia
> > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/West+Virginia?tid=inf
> > or
> > mline>. To date, a few ad hoc labs have processed about 85,000
> > pieces of evidence taken from weapons caches or roadside devices.
> > Duong's mobile forensic labs, with an initial budget of $34 million,
> > will be deployed all over Iraq.
> >
> > snip
> >
> > Hmmm.When is this going to be in the hands of every cop on the street?
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
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