With two of my three kids born in Canada I've followed the McCain development with some interest. While I won't quote articles of law, the net is that the accepted definition is now: "born an american citizen".
-chris "Somewhere, Beyond the Sea, somewhere waiting for me, my lover stands on golden saaaannnnds and watches the ships that go sailing." --- On Thu, 7/10/08, William Lefkovics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: William Lefkovics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners > To: "'funsec'" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 3:38 PM > That defines one of the many potential situations. Is > Panama "beyond the > sea"? > > I am certainly no expert; I was referencing the article. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:41 AM > To: William Lefkovics; funsec > Subject: RE: [funsec] stop blaming > "America"...its owned by foreigners > > >> There is no precedent as 'natural born > citizen' has not been > thoroughly > defined. It may be so, but it isn't 'obvious'. > > Really, it hasn't? I didn't know you were an expert > on the matter. How's > this for a definition? The Congress in 1790, a Congress on > which a number of > Framers sat, provided in the Naturalization Act that > "...the children of > citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the > sea, . . .shall > be considered as natural born citizens . . . ." (Act > of March 26, 1790, 1 > Stat. 103, 104) > > Larry Seltzer > eWEEK.com Security Center Editor > http://security.eweek.com/ > http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ > Contributing Editor, PC Magazine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of William Lefkovics > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:05 PM > To: 'funsec' > Subject: Re: [funsec] stop blaming > "America"...its owned by foreigners > > So really this is a non-issue and there shouldn't even > be a 'probe', right? > > >> Obviously it fits the requirements > > There is no precedent as 'natural born citizen' has > not been thoroughly > defined. It may be so, but it isn't 'obvious'. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:50 AM > To: William Lefkovics; funsec > Subject: RE: [funsec] stop blaming > "America"...its owned by foreigners > > What the Constitution says on the matter is this: "No > Person except a > natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at > the time of the > Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the > Office of President; > neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who > shall not have > attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been Fourteen > Years a Resident > within the United States. " > > Having been born on a US military base, McCain was, by > right of birth, a US > citizen. Obviously it fits the requirements, which are a > stupid rule in any > event. > > Larry Seltzer > eWEEK.com Security Center Editor > http://security.eweek.com/ > http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ > Contributing Editor, PC Magazine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of William Lefkovics > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:24 PM > To: 'funsec' > Subject: Re: [funsec] stop blaming > "America"...its owned by foreigners > > I am not American and do not give hair nor hiney who wins > the election and > does not become president; however, this looks like someone > trying to force > an inappropriate technicality. I expected something about > Obama, but I > think the US military zones should not be exempt from the > requirement for > becoming president. How silly to even investigate it. It > sounds so.... > Canadian. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of Richard M. Smith > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:01 AM > To: 'funsec' > Subject: Re: [funsec] stop blaming > "America"...its owned by foreigners > > Even worse, the "Mall of America" was built and > is owned by Canadians! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall_of_America#History > > Come November we may also have a foreign-born president: > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections > /art > icle3460276.ece > > Richard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of Randy > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:04 PM > To: funsec > Subject: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its > owned by foreigners > > First it was "Chrysler". Now its The > "Chrysler Building". > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aACZuFPo8cf8 > > And soon it will be "Anheuser-Bush" just to name > a few. > http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSN0827753420080708?feedTy > pe=R > SS&feedName=businessNews > > Our money goes out and right back in to buy us out. > http://www.economyincrisis.org/acquisitions/index#sold > > Our workers lose jobs left and right > http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/07/news/economy/jobs_february/ > > Our gas prices rise along with our food. Ethanol what > happen to you? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGACRXbbBXE > > > > I am trying to stay happy and thankful > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
