how many attack vectors are there out there now? pick one, add this
payload, poof.

seriously, why is this even a conversation? patch. its important. you
know why. the devils advocate angle really isn't something anyone
dealing with deploying this patch to reams of systems wants to hear
right now.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> << If you have a system that is not patched against this threat, you
> will be pwned in the same fashion as the MS05-039 exploit spread like
> wildfire -- that was my point.
>
> How? (This is hypothetical here) I am running XPSP2 and my firewall is
> on. I don't have file and print sharing on, as is the case with the
> overwhelming majority of XPSP2 users.
>
> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:06 PM
> To: Larry Seltzer
> Cc: Juha-Matti Laurio; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch
> today
>
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> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> IIRC, MS05-039 didn't hit XP SP2 users as hard as those of earlier
>> versions for the same reasons MS08-067 doesn't. Back then XPSP2 was
>> relatively new, about a year old and met with a lot of resistance, so
>> the world was full of vulnerable systems. How many pre-XP SP2 systems
>> are out there in the wild now? (And not already massively infected
> with
>> something?)
>>
>
> Doesn't matter, red herring.
>
> If you have a system that is not patched against this threat, you will
> be
> pwned in the same fashion as the MS05-039 exploit spread like wildfire
> --
> that was my point.
>
> - - ferg
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