Being one of the guys running the course, this is all about demonstrating what's out there using existing tools. No coding at all! If your plan is to start a carreer as a cybercrimeoverlord it's a waste of time to join the session.
cheers, Toralv > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick FitzGerald > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Marcus, David > Subject: Re: [funsec] McAfee really DOES write new Malware! > Wholey Moley! > > Dan Kaminsky to me: > > > > _That_ is not at all much like what you say, above, that this > > > workshop will be about, so who is right? > > > > > > You? > > > > > > Or the morons in marketing/PR who wrote the website copy? > > > > More to the point, are you seriously suggesting that some IT > > professional out there is thinking -- > > > > You know, this job sucks. I know! I'll go to a McAfee training > > seminar and learn how to write me some malware! Muahahahhahahah! > > > > But first, let me grow out this mustache, for I must have > something to twirl.. > > > > In all seriousness, I don't mind security professionals > going to Black > > Hat to learn how to use Metasploit; I certainly wouldn't > mind McAfee > > training on what actually is going on inside of malware. > > Not at all -- I'm equally cool with the AVERT folk (several > of whom are good friends of mine, though whether they'll be > involved in Focus'09, I know not) making informed > presentations on malware workings and even running workshops > where customers can get hands-on experience of dealing with > infections, outbreaks, etc in as realistic (but Internet- > disconnected) lab settings as possible. > > My complaint is that they have a website saying "we write > Trojans and will train you up too" and when folk complained > about that they wheeled out a statement saying "that's not > what we meant", rather than taking some action to change the > offending website and _then_ making a statement. > > The old adage has it that action speaks louder than words -- > so far McAfee have spoken... > > ... > > OK -- last reload of the offending page before I hit send it > has changed to read: > > Join experts from McAfee Avert Labs and have a chance to > work with a > Trojan horse, commandeer a botnet, install a rootkit and experience > first hand how easy it is to modify websites to serve up malware. > > so, better late than never... > > > > Regards, > > Nick FitzGerald > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > Firmensitz: Muenchen Amtsgericht: AG Muenchen Handelsregister: HRB 144340 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Emmet Russell, Keith Krzeminski, Douglas Rice Bankverbindung: ABN-Amro Bank N.V. Konto 671 211 9006 UST-ID: DE168122444 _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
