Funsec has hit its peak of inflated expectations and certainly hit its plateau 
of productivity, due to that we have decided to relegate Funsec to the newly 
created "Jesters Quadrant".





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Alex Eckelberry
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:03 PM
To: Larry Seltzer; Michael Graham; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [funsec] Rethinking FUNSEC

You're working for Gartner now?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Larry Seltzer
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:54 PM
To: Michael Graham; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [funsec] Rethinking FUNSEC

I don't have a column anymore. Nowadays I copy funsec and paste it into Word 
and sell it as white papers to vendors.

Larry Seltzer
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
[email protected]
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Michael Graham
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [funsec] Rethinking FUNSEC

Ya if someone were to publicize funsec, what the hell would larry have left for 
his column?

Sorry but this material has already been commercialized please find other.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Larry Seltzer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Chill Barry.

Everyone back to work. Nothing to see here.

Larry Seltzer
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
On Behalf Of Barry Raveendran Greene
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:53 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [funsec] Rethinking FUNSEC

Hi Team,

IMHO, the garbage in the press are influencing policy makers in
governments
and corporations to the wrong conclusions. Conclusions which lead to
actions
which is not addressing the reality of the threats. This is now not
something to be laughed at, but something which is hurting the industry.

I'm already started to tear into articles which as flawed, not
researched,
and garbage. I will continue to do that.

But we have another option - take the FUNSEC dialog public. This is not
opening the list, this is taking these conversations - which deal with
critiquing press articles -  public and searchable.

Thoughts?

Barry






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