Don't forget that they can now be used on door locks too in Japan so  
you can lose your house keys
with your keitai/phone.

Telus and Visa are doing some RF based transaction trials here in  
western Canada. They are slowly
trying to deploy rf aware customer terminals.

My best gossip is that an IC(rfidcurrency, my monicker) chip will be  
built into the next rev iphone too.
My bet is that it will be in pretty much most next phone hardware revs  
- but that's just my 2c. ;-P
Japan will force the way there, imho, because you will pretty much  
need that to stay in the market there.

cheers,
--dr

On 25-Nov-09, at 3:27 PM, Peter Evans wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:30:46AM -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan,  
> Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote:
>> the card.  [I guess the media hasn't found out about antennae, yet  
>> - rms]  The only
>> credit cards that are vulnerable are those that allow users to tap  
>> or pass a reader to
>> pay rather than swiping. Some might also have a symbol on them that  
>> indicate
>> they transmit.  [It is, of course, the symbol that is dangerous -  
>> rms]
>
>       IN japan, that would be EDY, PASMO/SUICA/PITAPI/IOCCA/etc (Felica)
>       which my phone has. It's now standard in phones.
>
>       Now, I can use my phone to travel on trains, pay for stuff at  
> convenience stores,
>       even book tickets on domestic flights and act as the ticket! It is  
> possible to go
>       for a few days cashless. (Oh, vending machines too!)
>
>       Oh, and you can buy reader/writers in Akiba.
>
>       And the stupid biometric crap in passports. whoever thought that was
>       a good idea should be baked in an rf oven.
>
>
>       P
>
>       
>
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