Well, of course it isn't. I feel that my message clearly highlights that, since I didn't suggest that it was a "so-called" 1%.
I wonder what impact recent, well-known, media-covered events have done to augment the general population's interest in security? I know some will be quite quick to suggest that few things shift that quantity in any notable way, but that strikes me as the patent and premature dismissal of an interesting question by a jaded (perhaps "read:experienced?") individual. Some hard data and discussion would be interesting to me. On Jul 19, 2012 4:34 AM, "Drsolly" <drsol...@drsolly.com> wrote: > Funsec isn't a representative sample of people. > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Kyle Creyts wrote: > > > I am part of the 1%. > > On Jul 19, 2012 2:31 AM, "Drsolly" <drsol...@drsolly.com> wrote: > > > > > If someone can't be bothered to write their thoughts down, and require > me > > > to spend 20 minutes to watch a video giving views that I could have > read > > > in one minute, then I'm not going to devote my time to listen to them. > > > > > > Since I haven't heard what he has to say, I cannot comment on his > views. > > > Except to point out that 99% of people are as interested in computer > > > security as they are in beetle collecting. And anything that depends on > > > them being more interested than that, or better informed, is doomed. > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah > wrote: > > > > > > > Marc Goodman (who I believe is https://twitter.com/FutureCrimes and > > > > http://www.futurecrimes.com/ ) gave a recent TED talk on trends in > the > > > use of > > > > high technology in crime: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ted.com/talks/marc_goodman_a_vision_of_crimes_in_the_future.html > > > > > > > > The 20 minute talk is frightening, with very little in the way of > > > comfort for the > > > > protection or security side. He ends with a call for crowdsourcing > of > > > protection. > > > > > > > > Now as a transparent society/open source/full disclosure kind of > guy, I > > > like the > > > > general idea. But, as someone who has been involved in education, > > > security > > > > awareness, and professional security training for some time, I see a > few > > > problems. > > > > For crowdsourcing to work, you need a critical mass of at least > > > minimally capable > > > > people. When you are talking about a weather reporting app, that > minimal > > > > capability isn't much. When you are talking about detecting cyberwar > or > > > > bioweapons, the capability levels are a bit different. > > > > > > > > Just yesterday the PNWER (Pacific NorthWest Economic Region > > > > http://www.pnwer.org/ ) conference became the latest to bemoan the > lack > > > of > > > > trained employees. I rather suspect these constant complaints, > since I > > > see lots of > > > > people out of work. But the people who are whining about employees > are > > > just > > > > looking for network admins and such. We need people with more depth > and > > > more > > > > breadth in their backgrounds. I get CISSP candidates in my seminars > who > > > are > > > > network admins who simply want to know a few ACLS for firewalls. I > have > > > to > > > > keep telling them that security professionals need to know more than > > > that. > > > > > > > > Yes, I am privileged to be able to meet a number who *are* > interested in > > > learning > > > > everything possible in order to meet any need or problem. But, > > > relatively > > > > speaking, those are few. And my sample set tends to be abnormal, in > > > that these > > > > are people who have already shown some interest in training (even if > > > only job > > > > related). What Goodman is talking about is the general public. And > > > those of us > > > > who have actually tried security awareness know how little conceptual > > > awareness > > > > we have to build on, let alone advanced technical knowledge. > > > > > > > > I think awareness, self-protection, and crowdsourcing is probably the > > > only good > > > > way to approach the problems Goodman outlines. I just worry that we > > > have a long > > > > way to go. > > > > > > > > http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/1793 > > > > > > > > ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) > > > > rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca > rsl...@computercrime.org > > > > On Friday, January 23rd, 2004, in a speech at the World Economic > > > > Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Bill Gates stated `Two years from > > > > now, spam will be solved.' > > > > victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links > > > > http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ > > > > http://twitter.com/rslade > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > > > > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > > > > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > > > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > > > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > > > > >
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