So, just for debate...

  The 5th protects us from handing over passwords.  So they ask for decrypted 
data to be handed over.
   Wouldn't that be a 5th amendment violation as well?

  If police raid my house with a warrant, I do not have to do a thing other 
than let them search and find what they want or not.
   If they find a locked safe (and I know the document about where I buried 
jimmy hoffa is in there), do I have to give them the combination?  Sounds like 
that would violate the 5th....  Can they force me to open the safe, thus giving 
them the document inside?  Does THAT violate the 5th... 
  What if they have a warrant to search the inside of the safe?   Do I have to 
surrender the combination then?

 Or do they have to attempt to open the locked safe  themselves?
  What happens if this is "uber-defcon-safe-2000" and it absolutely cannot EVER 
be opened without the correct combination?  What happens then when the police 
with the warrant cannot open it?
   Am I in contempt of court because I won't hand over evidence that I know 
will incriminate me?

  Thoughts?  Bonus points to those that can cite cases to backup their 
opinion/facts...  Double bonus if you're a constitutional lawyer and answer :-)

 Mike B

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Walton [mailto:noloa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 09:28 PM
To: FunSec List <funsec@linuxbox.org>
Subject: [funsec] Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto    
keys

Sledgehammer once again used to crack a nut

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/08/christopher_wilson_students_refusal_to_give_up_crypto_keys_jail_sentence_ripa/

A computer science student accused of hacking offences has been jailed
for six months for failing to hand over his encryption passwords,
which he had been urged to do in "the interests of national security".

Christopher Wilson, 22, of Mitford Close, Washington, Tyne and Wear,
was jailed for refusing to hand over his computer passwords, a move
that frustrated an investigation into claims he launched an attack on
a police website.

Wilson, who has Asperger's Syndrome, was suspected of "trolling" the
Northumbria Police as well as attempting to break into the Serious
Organised Crime Agency's website.
...
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