Sorry Bill, but if you're living in a country, ANY country, you better damn 
well know what that country's capitol is...

Aren't TSA workers supposed to have at least a High School education?
Aren't TSA workers supposed to be citizens of the US?
ARen't TSA workers supposed to receive training before fondling us?
Aren't TSA workers supposed to be intelligent enough to protect us from bad 
guys?

Aren't TSA workers supposed to have a fucking clue?

I'm sure that this case is an isolated case, and that not all TSA workers are 
clueless morons... but this doesn't make me feel easy about their screening 
process and the "training" they receive...

I'm sorry, I don't cut them ANY slack what-so-ever....  They are the "airport 
police"... imagine if you get pulled over by a *real* police officer in Idaho 
and you hand him your DC license... what would your reaction be if he then 
demands your passport because he states you handed him a non-US license?



Michael P. Blanchard
Principal Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Cyber Security Services
EMC ² Corporation
32 Coslin Drive
Southboro, MA 01772


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Bill Terwilliger
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:24 PM
To: rmsl...@shaw.ca
Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org
Subject: Re: [funsec] US capitol not in US, according to TSA

Am I the only person who thinks that this news anchor is making a mountain out 
of a molehill? It seems reasonable that a low level TSA person (or possibly a 
new TSA employee) might not know that DC issues their own licenses.  And then 
when the agent wasn't sure about the situation, he first asked for alternative 
ID and when that wasn't provided, he escalated to a more senior agent.  In 
essence, the agent didn't trust an unrecognized credential and escalated the 
issue.  The credential was verified and the anchor was let through in a 
reasonably timely manner otherwise I'm sure he would have complained about that 
too.  More noteworthy is the fact that management team implemented an ID 
training policy almost immediately after the incident.

The comment about smart people being involved is a bit presumptive.  Geography 
knowledge may or may not be an indicator of intelligence but I somehow doubt 
that lack of it is an indicator of stupidity.

-bill
 
On Jul 17, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah 
<rmsl...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/orlando-tsa-agents-getting-geography-
> refresher/ngfmH/
> 
> Those of us who live outside the US know that a fairly high proportion of 
> Murricans don't know anything about TROW (the rest of the world), but we did 
> sort of assume that they did know about Washington, DC.
> 
> (As one report on this stated, either there *is* a threat, in which case you 
> want 
> some smart people involved, or there isn't, in which case, who needs a TSA?)
> 
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