sorry Hal, because I do like you and do respect you but.........
> Let me pose a question: how much do you want to make? No, this isn't a >
TonyRobbins thing -- but presumably the answer is "more". (Kind of like >
the landowner who said, "I don't want to own ALL the land -- just the > >
land next to mine...")
> Well, I agree. I want us all to earn more -- and I want to stop the
> exploitation of other people while we're at it.
I'm not saying it probably wouldn't be worth it but preaching this and
charging 5K per person per class?
Fred T. Sanders
Charlottesville, VA
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If that was my project I'd be freaking out.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal Helms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:11 PM
Subject: RE: Multiple app_globals includes?
> Warning: semi-rant follows. May induce terminal boredom. Personal
philosophy
> of the kind I normally don't indulge in. Consult your doctor before
> reading...
>
> Alan,
>
> I think you're kidding (?) but indulge me for a moment.
>
> Let me pose a question: how much do you want to make? No, this isn't a
Tony
> Robbins thing -- but presumably the answer is "more". (Kind of like the
> landowner who said, "I don't want to own ALL the land -- just the land
next
> to mine...")
>
> Well, I agree. I want us all to earn more -- and I want to stop the
> exploitation of other people while we're at it. This won't come as
> ground-shaking news but the internet has the potential to democratize
> intellectual labor such as programming. We don't have to look to
sweatshops
> in the Philippines to see gross injustice in wages. I will spare everyone
> the social gospel stuff, but I'm very serious about this. Talk to a single
> mom making $7.00 an hour, etc.
>
> But how do we do this? We can either find ourselves a comfortable little
> niche and feather our own nest or we can work to create a new system. We
> can't just say to people, "Give us more money because we want it." We
can't
> even say, "Give us more money because it's the right thing to do." I think
> we have to approach it as "Give us more money because it will save you
money
> overall." And we have to be able to back this up.
>
> The present system of programming was designed as intellectual
gamesmanship.
> It's horribly inefficient and fails mostly. But for some of us, it
provides
> a danged good living, so the only people who might have the ability to
> really change the system --us -- aren't exactly motivated to do so. But I
> think we can do better. I think by creating systems that reliably produce
> what the customer wants at better than market prices, we can create a
system
> where everyone wins -- including the single mom or the Filipino
programmer.
>
> $120/hr you mentioned? May I suggest that we should all set our sights
MUCH
> higher -- and that to do that we have to be able to deliver. Hence the
> architecting and Fusedoc and all the rest of it. If we don't do it, it may
> get done by someone else, but think of the opportunity that we would have
> squandered...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McCollough, Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:17 PM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: Multiple app_globals includes?
>
>
> Well, that's cuz you want to use those fifty-cent per day Filipino
workers,
> ain't it? C'mon, yer gonna push all our salaries down. Hire some decent
> $120/hr Made in the USA talent, okay, Hal?
>
> Alan McCollough
> Web Programmer
> Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
> Alaska Native Medical Center
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hal Helms [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:43 AM
> > To: Fusebox
> > Subject: RE: Multiple app_globals includes?
> >
> > The problem with cflocating from circuit to circuit, from my POV, is
that
> > circuit app writers have to know too much about what's going on in other
> > circuits. ....
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