its tough enough convincing them to use cookies...


-----Original Message-----
From: paul smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 2:29 PM
To: Fusebox
Subject: OT: Re: Fuseox book order


<CF_CC_rant>

OTOH, I hate to see the Urban Myth perpetuated among professionals that the
card holder is at *financial risk* from unsecured transmission of CC
numbers over the Internet.  The banks perpetuate this because THEY are the
ones at risk from packet sniffers.  Anyone with a Merchant Account has had
the experience where even *fraudulent customers* got their CC charges
reversed on *legitimate* charges.  The real risk Merchants pose is the
place where the CC data resides (transaction carbon copies in wastebasket,
CC data in database, CC data in file cabinet, etc) not the route it used to
get there (where employees can steal hard copy CC data, hackers break into
computers and steal it, etc)

The card holder does have the remote *nuisance risk* of having to protest
fraudulant charges to the CC bank and get them removed.

Of course, it's probably of little use for us to try and explain this to
our customers.

best,  paul

At 01:57 PM 10/13/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Yikes!!  that's fixed now.  I apologize for that.
>
>Steve Nelson
>
>Steve Ray wrote:
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --------------5F06CF923227011FCE6E82F9
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Steve -
> >
> > Just fyi, I'm real concerned because I just placed an order for the
> book and ebook on secretagents.com, entered my credit card info, and then
> noticed that at no point in the transaction
> > did I get transferred over to https. So my credit card info just got
> sent unencrypted. Why is that? Did you know about it?
> >
> > Steve Ray
> > Matrix
> >

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