Oh I'm not saying that good techniques aren't useful in and of themslves.  
Just that the usefulness escalates dramatically as other people begin to use 
the same techniques.

The problems with using a roll-your-own architecture, no matter how logical 
and swish, are many:
* No easy way to ask for help (you can't expect other people to spend the 
time figuring out what is going on just so they can begin to lend a hand);
* Little feedback --> more chance for unnoticed problems;
* Learning curve for other people when they come to work on your stuff;
* Learning curve for you when you go and work on someone else's FuseBox, 
CfObjects, etc, code

To think in evolutionary terms (my fave) -

* Ideas become better by a process of evolution.
* Ideas evolve by being replicated with variation, again and again.
* The more often the ideas replicate (ie the more people who take them up), 
the better the ideas will adapt to their environment (ie the community).
* In other words, the greater the number of people thinking about an idea, 
and bouncing it around back and forth, the better that idea will become at 
meeting the needs of the people using it.

Esoteric?  Hell yeah!  It's an Australo-Estonian thing.

As for CF-Talk, I agree that there are fabulous people there, but there is 
clearly a problem with info-glut. I certainly don't use that list much, 
except to ask/answer very low-level questions like "what is the correct form 
of the criteria attribute in cfsearch?", and to scout for early evidence of 
other practices like CFObjects, SwitchBox, BlackBox, FuzzBox.

Anyway, I don't much mind WHY people are using FuseBox.  By my reasoning, 
I'm just happy that there are lots of them.  It helps me do my job, and 
stops me feeling like I'm all alone in the world ;-)

See ya,
Leee.




>From: "Roger B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > A very large part of the
> > usefulness of ANY technique is the degree to which its use becomes a
> > "standard".
>
>Lee,
>
>I would most definitely disagree. Fusebox was quite useful to me when all I
>knew of it was the white paper... at that point, I didn't know or care if
>five people or five thousand were using it. Inspired ideas are inspired
>ideas.
>
> > It should be especially obvious to everyone on this list that the really
> > fantastic thing about FuseBox is the community of users, and the
> > vast pools
> > of knowledge and experience within, rather than any intrisic value of 
>the
> > techniques themselves.
>
>That definitely isn't obvious to me. There are several Very Smart People in
>the Fusebox community, but then again, there are even more outside of it...
>if all I wanted was a vast pool of knowledge and experience, I'd hang out 
>on
>CFTalk and follow Watts and Forta around. [g]
>
>
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