ZAP -----Original Message----- From: Richard Kuryk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:30 PM To: Fusebox Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate? Importance: Low Since ASP works so well why are you in a coldfusion newsgroup? > -----Original Message----- > From: jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:05 PM > To: Fusebox > Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate? > > > I think you are bitter and just jealous that they make money. IIS has > been consistently rated the FASTEST of all available Web servers. > > Microsoft is not perfect but their tools work, they save time and are > the most powerful on the market (ASP Excluded). There is absolutely no > OS that is 100% reliable and secure. > > Your bottom line is you like FREE. Do you work fro free? If so you > haven't gotten it yet. If you don't why would you expect others to do > it? > > Jim Nitterauer > President > Creative Data Concepts Limited, Inc. > 3 W. Garden Street > Suite 326 > Pensacola, FL 32501 > > 850-434-7645 > 800-607-6168 > http://www.creativedata.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:56 AM > To: Fusebox > Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate? > > > First off, you have to be kidding if you think I'm supposed > to feel bad > for Microsoft? I'm sorry but how could I. They bully competitors, over > charge for their products, offer terrible support for their > crap, and on > top of that they are smug about it. > > Second, as a professional web developer for some time now, I have > examined many of Microsoft's products, and I would like to official > weight in with my opinion. > > I think Microsoft products suck. Their OS is crap. Their > database tools > are horrible. (SQL Server is a waste of money), their > development tools > are horrible (VSS stinks), and their web server (IIS) is slow and full > of security holes. In fact word is HotMail was hacked yet again > yesterday. How many times is that now? My company had to > virtually shut > down last week because of yet another worm that found its way into out > system. > > I will say that I thought IE was a good browser until the crap they > pulled this week, with "opps -- we accidentally took out Netscape > Plugins. Sorry, no more quicktime". So now I switched back to using > Netscape again. Screw that. I love Quicktime. > > The truth is I have been forced into using these products. > But they are > not my choice. > > At work I use MS because its the company I work for's > decision to do so. > But at home I run Red Hat Linux. Because I like having choices. I also > love, love, love the fact that its free. So while others go out and > spend money on software, I'm happily saving mine, and still getting a > rock solid, fast, powerful OS. And that goes for virtual all the > software available for it. Apace, MySQL, PHP, SAMBA, CVS, JAVA and > thousands of other tools. > > Go ahead give your money to Microsoft. > They certainly act like they appreciate it. Just look how they treat > people. > > "The greatest power we have as an individual, is with out pocketbooks" > > What do others think? > > P.Isaacs > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:26 AM > To: Fusebox > Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate? > > > I like Microsoft's products...I think some of their business > ploys are a > little dirty but hey...It's business. We could turn this into a real > philosophical debate but cmon...the only difference we can make as a > consumer is watchout for our best interests. > > I will say though that Win2k was their first operating system. > Everything before that was crap. I did tech support for 2 > years and sys > admin for 3. Don't even get me started on win95/98. ;-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:18 AM > To: Fusebox > Subject: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate? > > > (deep breath) > > Why is everyone do agro agro about Microsoft? What do the majority of > you guys use?! I would assume Windows. MS do what they need to do to > survive in still a very competitive market. Anyone can make software > with correct knowledge and tools - its not as if they are countries > using their power to corrupt other nations is it? <cough cough> ring a > bell? > > Jeez, look at Apple - they release an already 2 years late OS > which you > would have to re-purchase all your software for anyway?! erm > and thats > not underhand? Apple are in teh position they are in for one reason, > they didn't license the OS rights - nail in the coffin right there. Oh > and it doesn't work well - something Windows does, despire > the hear 'say > - Windows 95/98 I will give you, they were pants, but NT, 2K > are pretty > stable - I have never had to reboot a server in anger. > > I suggest you guys take the time out to realise just how much work was > put into making the MS business and maybe take some time out from your > bitchin to read Randell E. Stross's book - The Microsoft Way; it is a > fair expose of the man and the company - I think it will open a lot of > eyes. > > Maybe the QT thing was deliberate, maybe it wasn't - but > there will be a > resolution. > > "Open Your minds, be formless." > > Neil > > <!------------------------------ > Neil Clark > Senior Web Applications Engineer > CF / Spectra / XML / Cerebro > Macromedia Alliance Partner > MCB Digital Limited > [T]: 020 8941 3232 > [F]: 020 8941 4333 > [M]: 07719 448 227 > [E]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [www] www.fluidik.com > --------------------------------> > > 'empty your mind. be formless' > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
