I think there's an unfortunate misconception with regard to FB4 and MVC.  John Q 
and Hal teach the gospel of MVC at the same time they teach FB4, leading many to 
believe that FB4 necessitates the flavor of MVC advocated by them.  This is not so.  
The only real aspect of FB3 that FB4 doesn't have is the hierachical nature of 
layouts, based on physical directory structure of the app.  The FB4 layout method is 
much more flexible.  It allows MVC a la Hal/John to be implemented much more 
easily than FB3 did, but it doesn't require that you work that way.

There are plenty of ways to implement MVC as a design pattern.  Fusebox has, in 
essence, always been somewhat MVC in nature, in that we segregate 
database/action (Model) and display (View) code, and the Fusebox file is the 
controller.  The Hal/John approach just explicitly renders this relationship in 
separate 
directories--an approach I don't take, generally speaking.

All that said, I'm glad to see there are active explorers out there.  Tyler, how does 
your approach to MVC differ from that commonly seen in FB4, and what does MOBX 
solve in that regard?

- Jeff


On 21 Oct 2004 at 11:36, Kay Smoljak wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:48:57 -0400, Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MyOpenbox is a CFC based framework that follows a good amount of the Fusebox
> > 4 language and conventions.  The MVC aspect of the FB4 didn't gel with the
> > way we write and re-use circuits, so I decided to create my own version of
> > Fusebox that allowed me to test out some enhancements I had been thinking
> > of, most of which were from the Fusebox 3 timeframe.
> 
> Just for the record, I think this is a great idea. A dis-inclination
> to slice up really simple apps - my bread and butter - with the MVC
> approach is what has kept me from fully embracing FB4. I haven't
> really looked far into MOB yet, but I might yet.
> 
> -- 
> Kay Smoljak
> http://kay.smoljak.com/
> 
> 

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