why is that?  I know it is off topic.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Dardaganian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: Multinlingula Sites and Methodology


> My understanding is that Site Minder is going away with the release of
> CFMX.
> 
> 
> 
> Bradley S. Dardaganian
> Lead Application Developer
> MediTech Media Ltd (USA)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (404) 591-3247
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Farrar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Multinlingula Sites and Methodology
> 
> 
> Since you did not define "cheap"... have you looked at Site Minder by
> MM?
> 
> John
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 01:40PM >>>
> I was always told that you can not use version control with graphics.
> In theory from what I understand it is a waste considering a lot of
> functions you have are for comparisons between different versions and
> the such.  Plus I am sure it will take up a lot of HD space.
> 
> My graphic artist copies the project folder and appends a version number
> to the end of it. 
> 
> Other then CVS on unix can you suggest a good and cheap versioning
> system for windows?  Thanks.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Balazs Wellisch 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:48 PM
>   Subject: RE: Multinlingula Sites and Methodology
> 
> 
>   Well, I have to disagree with your graphic artist on this, but if that
> doesn't work for him you could also name the images the same way you
> name your display files. <img
> src="images/yourImage_#attributes.language#.gif. That's a lot messier if
> you ask me.
> 
>   Do you use version control to manage the files in your application? If
> so, it's much easier to just branch off the existing images directory in
> your project, create a copy of the whole thing, and modify each file as
> needed. Anyway, this only makes sense if you're using version control. 
> 
>   (Let me guess your graphic artist has never heard of version control,
> likes to rename files by appending a .old at the end of file names,
> occasionally puts spaces and special characters inside file names, and
> wonders who the idiot was that made Unix case sensitive. Yeah, I've
> fought my own battles with the "artists" :))
> 
>   B
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: John Jonathan Kopanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>     Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:29 PM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>     Subject: Re: Multinlingula Sites and Methodology
> 
> 
>     I just spoke to the graphic artist about having different
> directories depending on language and he is totally against it.  He says
> it is very messy.  Any other suggestions or arguments I can give to him?
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: Balazs Wellisch 
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>       Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:55 PM
>       Subject: RE: Multinlingula Sites and Methodology
> 
> 
>       Personally I would do it the second way. You'd have a lot more
> files to modify using the first method if you wanted to ad a third
> language.  
> 
>       But instead of using attributes.language I'd simply put the
> language preference into a client variable. So instead of
>       <cfinclude template="dsp_display#attrubutes.language#.cfm"> 
>       it would read 
>       <cfinclude template="dsp_display#clients.language#.cfm">. 
>       That way you don't have to pass the language variable to every
> single script. (Although, you could also avoid that hassle by appending
> attributes.language to #self# in fbx_settings.cfm)
> 
>       You could also put the same logic in your layout file like so:
> 
>       <cfswitch expression="#client.language#">
>         <cfcase value="fr">
>            <cfset fusebox.layoutFile = "frenchLayout.cfm">
>         </cfcase>
>         <cfdefaultcase> 
>            <cfset fusebox.layoutFile = "englishLayout.cfm">
>         </cfdefaultcase>
>        </cfswitch>
> 
>       That way you could have a different layout for each language.
> 
>       You could also set up a variable to reference the correct images
> in fbx_settings.cfm:
> 
>       <cfswitch expression="#client.language#">
>         <cfcase value="fr">
>            <cfset request.images = "path/to/french/images/">
>         </cfcase>
>         <cfdefaultcase> 
>            <cfset request.images = "path/to/english/images/">
>         </cfdefaultcase>
>        </cfswitch>
> 
>       Then in your display files you put <img
> src="#request.images#yourImage.gif">
> 
>       Of course you could still use attributes.language instead of
> client.language if you prefer...
> 
>       Hope this helps,
> 
>       Balazs
> 
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: John Jonathan Kopanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>       Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:38 PM
>       To: Fusebox List
>       Cc: Denis Doyle
>       Subject: Multinlingula Sites and Methodology
> 
> 
>         As a programmer from Quebec, a lot of the sites I have to work
> on have to be bilingual.  Just as a clarification, they only have to be
> in French but most people want them in English because they do business
> outside of Quebec.  Do not let me get started with the politics here in
> Quebec, if it was not for the women I would be long gone :-).  Ok, where
> was I, oh yes multilingual sites.  I was wondering if anyone has come up
> with their own personal methodologies on using Fusebox and creating
> multilingual sites to fulfill the following requirements:
> 
>         - it is easy to add a new language to the site
>         - the logic is not duplicated
>         - Images might have to change for each language
> 
>         What I don't want to do:
> 
>         - I don't want to have to create a new directory for every
> language and copy over the site and just change the text and the tables
> I reference.
> 
>         Some possible solutions:
>         - have the display pages in the different languages and keep the
> action pages the same and just add language conditions to the actions
> pages.  Therefore the amount of switch cases would increase.
> 
>         ex) 
> 
>         <cfwitch case="example">
>             <cfinclude template="act_process.cfm">
>             <cfinclude template="dsp_display.cfm">
>         </cfswitch>
>         <cfwitch case="example_fr">
>             <cfinclude template="act_process.cfm">
>             <cfinclude template="dsp_display_fr.cfm">
>         </cfswitch>
> 
>         - another way to go would be is to pass language in query string
> and append it onto the file name in swtich so it chooses file according
> to language
> 
>         <cfwitch case="example">
>             <cfinclude template="act_process.cfm">
>             <cfinclude template="dsp_display#attrubutes.language#.cfm">
>         </cfswitch>
> 
> 
>         Any other suggestions?  Thanks for your help.
> 
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