Hi, SR,

yes, you're not the first to note that wikis can be used for wireframing.  There was a 
good deal of discussion about a
year back between Patrick and Brian about this subject - i think you can still find 
the discussion on FuseWiki ;-)

certainly you *can* use a wiki for wireframing, but the wireframetool has a few of 
advantages:
* it is very tightly constrained. a wiki can drop links in-line, as you say, it can 
make lists, bold elements, and even
create a pretty table, but these are not good things when you are creating a 
wireframe.  these are exactly the kind of
distractions that wireframing is intended to remove.  you and your client should never 
be tempted even for a second to
think "hmm, maybe that link should appear up in this part of the text", etc.  you need 
to soothe your client through
this part of the process, making it clear that layout considerations are entirely off 
the agenda ;-)
* the wireframetool has a clear notion of exits and destinations, ie several 
destinations can lead to a single
destination - there is a mapping between the two.  in a wiki, the distinction is not 
inherent, although it can usually
be implemented using more advanced wikik linking methods
*the wireframetool displays a summary map of the entire site.  you could program a 
wiki to do this, it's true, but i
haven't seen it done yet ;-)

don't get me wrong, though.  i am a HUGE fan of wikis, but i think that they are not 
quite *perfectly* suited to
wireframing.

of course, i could be biased.

good thoughts, matey
thanks heaps,
leebb

----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Ringo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Hi FB'ers,
>
> After using LeeBB's great gui wireframetool for a while now *Thanks
> Lee!*, I notice there is much commonality between this and Wikis.
>
> For those of you unfamiliar with Wikis, there is a great FB one at
> http://www.meta-magic.com/cgi-bin/fusewiki?Home
>
> The nice thing about a Wiki is that the links to the other pages are
> inside the text, and not a list of exits at the bottom.
> Clients seeing and using wireframes seem to prefer having exit links
> inside the text - i.e. the links are presented in context.
>
> Has anyone used a Wiki for wireframing?
>
> Perhaps there's an idea here - combine the concept of a wiki with those
> of wireframing.  What does everyone think?
>
> I have located two CF-based Wiki tools at:
>
> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines
>
> Does anyone know of any others?
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Steve
>

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