You mean: let's have as clear definition
of our abstract concepts as possible before
we debate them? ..ok...
Eva


> Dear Richard:
> 
> What a challenge!  Though I don't have an answer, it is the direction that
> is interesting.  I agree we have built up a whole rational of logic based on
> certain key concepts such as money, value, work, employment, income, savings
> and a whole legal body of law and accounting practices to contain and make
> valid these words.
> 
> To start some new thinking off, I would like to introduce a new concept.
> Out of the linguistic studies of Noam Chomsky and NLP came the idea of a
> class of words called "nominalizations".  A nominalization (I don't have the
> time to look up the official description right now) is a word used as a
> noun, but it is not a noun.  A noun is classically described a person, place
> or thing and the test we use to decide whether a word is being used as a
> nominalization is to ask the simple question, "Can you put it in a
> wheelbarrow."  All other words used as nouns are verb forms that are being
> used as nouns and from this "distortion" false logic begins and builds into
> a major monster.
> 
> Well, I decided to get out the old books, so I will transcribe a small
> portion.
> 
> Practical Magic
> by Leslie Cameron Bandler
> Page 51
> 
> 4.    Nominalizations, (words like "pride", "respect", "love", "confidence",
> "harmony", are introduced as nouns in the sentence but they represent
> activity and process in the person's deeper understanding and not static
> nouns.)
> 
> Statement:
> 
> "There is no respect here."  (Note respect would be parsed as a noun)
> 
> Challenge Question
> 
> Who is not respecting whom?  (Note the conversion of the nominalization back
> into a verb form.  This stops respect from being a thing and converts it to
> it's rightful use as a process.)  As long as "respect" is a thing then you
> end up with the logic of who has this thing or who doesn't have this thing.
> We spend much of our life arguing and defending processes masquerading as
> things when a properly framed question would remove this "distortion" and
> allow a more accurate perception of reality.
> 
> Let's now take this to the topic's you have brought forth.  Work is
> traditionally used as a nominalization - a thing.
> 
> Everyone must work.  (Accepted meaning is everyone must have this thing
> called work in their life.)
> 
> Who is not working?  ( Moves the nominalization back into a process and
> requires a different dialog from the first statement.)
> 
> I think you are right, that we have been hijacked by language and certain
> improper usages have become so commonplace that we cannot readily recognize
> the distortions they introduce into our thinking processes.  It is like
> going back on a statement even further than questioning the assumptions, it
> is the question of the form of the statement by having a formula that will
> reveal that the form is improper, therefore whatever answer comes forth is
> also flawed.
> 
> There is much more than this simple example to explore and if there is
> interest, I can suggest books and we can engage in a List dialog on how to
> remove some of the deletions, distortions and generalizations that occur in
> converting reality into language.  The map is not the territory and the map
> can never contain the territory, however the trick is to create a map that
> accurately reflects the territory of reality by eliminating or reducing
> deletions, distortions and generalizations by having questions that allow
> for a fuller explanation of the reality that we are attempting to reflect
> with language.
> 
> Respectfully
> 
> Thomas Lunde
> 
> 
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