From: Ray E. Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Jay, your vision seems to fit some of the things that I was taught early
on.  But what they assumed and I don't see you believing, is that a vision
is a time/space bound

It's really quite simple.  I see things totally in a material context.  For
example, people need a certain amount of water each day to survive.
Moreover, the depth of a water table can be measured objectively.

If objective measures show that water tables are falling, then ultimately,
people will die.  It doesn't make any difference what people think, it
doesn't make any difference what kind of government they have, it doesn't
make any difference what people say, the only thing that matters is what
they do.  If what they are doing is lowering water tables, then they must
either stop or die.

As I have said earlier, it's a "game management" problem.  But people
evolved to lie to others and themselves, so I expect people to continue
denying the reality of their lives and continue as they have until society
simply disintegrates and devolves in anarchy.

Jay


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