So the "left" is still to be equated with the
soviets. You think today's socialists
want to follow the pattern of the ex-USSR.
You are (again) ignoring all
I've been saying here for years.
I suppose there must be a few over 70
CP-ers who still idolise the USSR,
but that is definitely not
"the left".
Please do not send picture to any list -
that is an ultimate offence against netikette.
You can send it privately to people who
are interested, or put it on your website
and refer to it.
Eva
> To the list:
>
> I tried sending a picture but obviously that doesn't work. I guess it's just
> "too big", I mean too much memory for the list or servers. Anyone who wants
> one just ask and I will try sending it to you. Eva, did you get the picture?
>
> Now as for Eva, Ed, Jay, Arthur, Sally, Mike and the rest,
>
> The problem with this for me is the same as Paul Robeson. I worked with one of
> his teachers and he was a great man. One of the great artists and heroes of the
> 20th century. It was not his politics that was so much the problem, anymore
> than was Picasso's, but the whole concept of " intellectual value" abroad in the
> society in his time and this time still.
>
> A best selling book by a female judge says it best: "Beauty fades, dumb is
> forever." But what constitutes smart? A scientist on the basketball court
> with professional players would make dumb moves as would the reverse.
> Robeson was a great singer and a great political hero for an America that was
> brutal, crude and banal but he failed to see the same in the Soviets and the
> relatives of his intellectual friends in Moscow who were murdered by Stalin,
> never forgave him.
>
> The split between Jews and Blacks began there but the Black collaborationists
> who abandoned Robeson in the U.S. maintained the fragile coalition for a time
> longer until more progress could be made. The Crow Priest "Plenty Coups" had
> done the same sixty years earlier when he also signed a loyalty oath while
> "Crazy Horse" was murdered for being intractable. So who was right? The
> hero Robenson, under illegal "house arrest" in the U.S. for seven years
> protesting the lynchings and apartheid refusing to sign an unconstitutional
> loyalty oath so that he could perform around the world, or the men who
> cooperated with Macarthy? We have a similiar issue with Elia Kazan and the
> Oscars.
>
> And they love to call this a Judeo-Christian society. If I were either I would
> protest or certainly not admit to it.
>
> It is said that the CIA gave Robeson a drug, that causes paranoia, at a party in
> Moscow and the effect was that he slit his wrists effectively stopping his world
> tour of socialist countries and not embarrassing the U.S. powers. The Russians
> cooperated by giving him shock treatments and practically destroying the man.
> Beauty is fragile but dumbness is cantagious. All of this was on Television
> tonight. This great artist was a national treasure but dummies who stumble
> over diamonds and can only use them to kill rabbits were emulated in the last
> couple of centuries and are emulated still. Yes those same bunny killers are
> the ones who call us Hunter/Gatherers and even finally got it into the Am. Her.
> II American Dictionary. There is a problem with "knowledge" especially when
> you can simply define your competitor out of existence. Only the latest is
> real because there is a problem with remembering.
>
> In tomorrow's NYTimes there is an article about the scientist businessmen in
> Silicone Valley using their technical expertise and money to effect the
> political landscape in California for the Libertarians. Most are young and
> beautiful but their causes will outlast them and are truly dumb. Even the
> article quotes them as having very short attentions spans. (Cocaine can cause
> that also.) So the left is dumb and the right is dumb. Jay there had
> better be more than just right or left or this ship WILL sink.
>
> Robeson was trapped. White America patted themselves on the back for
> "letting" him become who he was but did not ask why they were not up to his
> standard. It also never occurred to them that this world class artist could
> have happened anywhere at any time. America had nothing to do with it. It
> just destroyed his health and ultimately killed him. The country that
> criticized the KGB even monitored his medical charts in the hospital with the
> FBI. What should worry the folks here is that the Black folks are not
> forgetting this stuff. Even Harry Belafonte came across like a historian
> tonight. They were an impressive group of people.
>
> On Nightline tonight there was a program about a study in how the White medical
> establishment treats blacks differently even when they are middle class, have
> good health insurance and are productive. In effect they were saying that
> the Black community is being robbed of its productive members by poor medical
> care in major hospitals all because of Doctor's attitudes about who they
> value. (Yes we've seen this before!)
>
> The study will be in the New England Medical Journal for those of you who
> believe this is hokum. I'm only reporting. ( It took an act of Congress to
> get the secret sterilization's of Indian women stopped in Government hospitals
> in 1977. The month the bill was passed there were 1,600 done anyway. So it's
> not all that much hokum or maybe hohokum either. )
>
> Koppel on Nightline didn't ascribe the inferior care to a belief in White
> Supremacy by the Doctors but in simple attitude. "Beauty fades, dumb is
> forever." How interesting it would be if instead of Blacks and Whites we
> would consider Blacks and whatever ethnicity or religion those Doctors happen to
> be. The myth that all Doctors are Jewish need not apply here. I suspect
> that the Jewish Doctors are probably less involved. It may even be an age
> issue. And we have seen how blanket "goodness" applied to certain religious
> groups have simply heightened their predatory natures.
>
> Anyone who believes that a person's conversion to their religion is comparable
> to saving a person's life through heart surgery can make up any reason for
> separating children from their families and have over the last four hundred or
> so years. I know about that personally also.
>
> It was strange that the Soviets could keep Inuit families together for study
> while destroying their regular population's family relationships and shipping
> people all over creation just for their government's convenience. It doesn't
> seem to matter whether it is a Capitalist manipulating poverty or a Communist
> considering the workforce as a corollary to the Army. Destruction is
> destruction. And this destruction that both sides Piss and Moan about, is
> built into their scientific and pseudo scientific use of knowledge.
>
> The problem with the future is that there is no real valuing of balance in
> creativity or respect for tradition in the present. Even the most obvious
> benefits of a family professional line with great geniuses like the European
> Master Painters, Lilli Lehman or even the Douglas family in Hollywood, not to
> mention the professions in Japan and elsewhere, are ignored. But somehow the
> Capitalists and the Commies are just so tied to that limited view of what
> constitutes intelligence and value that they destroy lines of information that
> have been building for hundreds and thousands of years. They think that the
> best way is to break up the lines and start over again with each birth.
> "Beauty fades, dumb is forever."
>
> Just because they can quote Descartes and give his second rate shaman formula,
> that every apprentice was taught at age six, does not mean that they know it or
> even believe it. The difference is that literacy just taught us all how to
> forget. Those six year olds didn't learn that. How's that for a line in the
> sand? Beauty fades, dumb is forever! Like the ugliness of Greenbelt
> Maryland, the UN Building, Black Velvet Last Supper scenes and sentimental
> barroom ballads.
>
> Now for a little Coda on this angst:
>
> How about a compromise? Instead of insults and dogma why not consider a
> little good old Lockian "prudence." It was, after all, Locke who succeeded
> in his revolution. He changed England and without destroying it. Neither the
> Founding Fathers of the U.S. or the Das Kapital Lieber Meisters were able to
> accomplish that for themselves. I never liked Locke much, found him obvious
> and boring but thus far he is the winner of this little story. He will
> determine the future of our work unless we can discard him and the others to the
> "stage" (altar, heap) of revered Masters and ask the real questions for
> ourselves and struggle to answer them without resorting to excess. Like this
> post it is too long and I'm going to bed. Goodnight Guys and Gals. Read
> you tomorrow.
>
> REH
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
