Dear Colin,

My brain is slightly scrambled from reading to many E Mails this morning,
but I am trying to answer those that I find relevant.  You and I have
obviously found the concept of voting once every four or five years an
inadequate method for expressing our citizenship and participation in the
issues of the day.  Your organizations focus on "referendums", I must
confess to some technical ignorance but one of it's flaws is the same as
conventional voting in two ways, one it is an either/or choice on a
specific question and two it does not allow for any meaningful discussion
after the vote.  I am appending an answer I gave to another list in which a
percentage voting system was explored by weighting the vote with imaginary
dollars and penalizing the voter if he was not on the winning side.  I
think my answer there will be applicable to the points I am trying to make
here.

I was one of the five who voted in Arie's Bet vote.  Somehow, it did not
live up to my expectations and I think my unease was the weighting done by
the concept of monetary value.  First, I found the instructions somewhat
difficult to grasp, in fact, I'm still not sure that I understand the
purpose though the concept of evaluating an opinion rather than casting a
vote may clarify it a little in my mind.  For the general public, I think
it is too sophisticated or else everyone will have to be guided through the
process several times so that they feel they are expressing exactly what
they want to express, I'm not sure that it allowed me to do that.

The best strategy (largest expected gain) is to base your bets on
your personal estimate of the probability that an option will be the
winning
one (the one democratically chosen according to this system).

It is this phrase, which indicates that I am trying to "win" rather than
expressing my honest opinion that I find a little odious.  The purpose of
voting, in my mind is to express an opinion based on my personal history
and thought, not to get on the winning side of an issue.  The idea, I
think, in a democratic situation is that each person votes according to
their personal convictions rather than trying to pick the winning side.  My
disgust with conventional voting is that yes/no bundled under many issues
does not leave me the ability to express a single opinion on a topic,
rather I am asked to vote on an agenda or platform.  The original thought,
when I responded to Arie's original answer in which he answered in
percentages was that this system might be developed so that my opinion on a
topic or platform could register something other than either end of a
continuum and that I like the flexibility of indicating some discomfort
without necessarily having to vote a total "no".

For example, if I was to vote on my perceived opinion of Arie's system, I
would choose 66% as my answer.  The overall idea is right, the concept of
picking the winning side is wrong.  In my way of thinking, I might be
offered a series of secondary questions or a line or two to focus my
discomfiture.  Alternatively, adding up my percentage, along with everyone
else's which could vary from 0 to 100% would only indicate which side of
the 50/50 split a group of individuals were on a particular question and to
what degree.

This could lead to reformulating the issue or perhaps rephrasing the
question but would not be binding in either a yes or no context unless it
was - for example between 0 to 25% or from 75 to 100%.  If the final tally
was between 25 - 75%, the vote would have to be held again with more
clarification or changes in the original question.  It would seem to me
that a series of multiple votes and the reframing or restructuring of the
issue would eventually lead to a consensus while fully exploring all the
possibilities.  The exploring of other possibilities educates all voters
and expands their repertoire and would lead to more consensus, if not to
total agreement, at least all parties would be party to expanded
information which would sway some who did not have the required information
to make a well reasoned decision in their original vote cast.

Respectfully,

Thomas Lunde

If you can make sense of these statements, I would be interested in your
response.


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