I just pick one of the many fuzzyness and what gives the impression of a tedious pseudo-scientific bla-bla. > Private property is inextricably part of our commons because it > is part of our life support and social systems. Owners affect us > all when they alter the emergent properties of our life support > and social systems (alter their land) to "make a profit" -- cover > land with corn or with concrete. > The longest period of human sapiens still the period when private property did not exist (50k+ years) All this time they were having ever growing populations eventually all over the globe. If you say social laws are like physical laws, than if you are consistant, if humans may use the knowledge of the first to manipulate the physical reality, why shouldn't they be able to do the same with social reality? It seems obscene to seek out this catastrophic vision and sit back saying this is our fate. You totally ignore the ability to plan and to cooperate. There is no "innate capitalism", however ignorant you make me out, it couldn't have "evolved" in a few hundred years. People already made some effort to overthrow capitalism, after a much shorter rule, than feudalism. Given the right initial conditions it could have already worked. The more consciously is done, the more chance for a genuin - not bourgois - democracy to emerge. I cannot see the point of your dark fatalism, except a good reason to call everybody else stupid, and have a good excuse to sit back and do buggerall in comfort.. Eva > Neighborhoods, cities and states are commons in the sense that > no one is denied entry. Anyone may enter and lay claim to the > common resources. One can compare profits to Hardin's "grass" > when any corporation -- from anywhere in the world -- can drive > down profits by competing with local businesses for customers. > > One can see wages as "grass" when any number of workers -- from > anywhere in the world -- can enter our community and drive down > wages by competing with local workers for jobs. Everywhere > one looks, one sees the Tragedy of the Commons. There is no > technological solution, but governments can act to limit access > to the commons, at which time they are no longer commons. > > In the private-money-based political system we have in America, > everything (including people) becomes the commons because money > is political power, and all political decisions are reduced to > economic ones. In other words, we have no true political system, > only an economic system -- everything is for sale. Thus, America > is one large commons that will be exploited until it is > destroyed. > > [ This is from my latest newsletter. For more -- including > references -- see www.dieoff.org ] > > Jay > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]