Ed:
> I have said something foolish. I would like to pretend that it was because
> I wanted to get people who are lurking out there in the cybernetic swamp
> back on the list, but in all honesty, I can't. It was merely foolish, said
> because I wanted to get back at Eva because she referred to something I said
> as "a load of xyz***!!!". So, I thought, what can I say to her that is
> equally insulting? What label can I use to put her in her place? Well, why
> not call her an idealist? That would surely do it.
>
When I upset someone, I first look what I could have
done to prompt such a response before I get emotional.
You haven't addressed that foolishness; blaming stalinism
on Stalin's ethnicity.
There was a question posed about solutions for unemployment.
I wonder how you distinguish the proposals into "idealists"
and "non-idealists". For any effectiveness they all require
major change that seem inpracticable to some people.
> I myself am an idealist, but a fallen one. I've lived through much of this
> century and see it as an era of betrayal. At one time I knew a lot about
> Stalin, and Lenin and was really pretty good at Marxian economics.
.... personal history savagely cut....
It seems that you are old enough to learn from your experiences...
You should not believe any propaganda without using critical
appraisal. You have now enourmous volume of records to see
how the Stalin pattern developed in all the countries where
similar conditions were present, with the particular dictators of
pure European or other origins. I've yet to see a decent debate about
these conclusions on this list.
You should have also noticed, that pretty decent democracies of the
Western way managed to change into the nastiest of dictatorships, and that
there are no guarantees built in against this periodic crisis anywhere, the same
patterns are repeating when the economy and social welfare is in
danger, look at the various types of fundamentalism/fascism making a
comeback all over the place, and suddenly the smugness about Canadian
civility becomes more fragile.
Eva
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