Thanks to Christoph Reuss for clarifying that democracy in the Scandinavian
countries is threatened by EU. Many americans have a lot of illusions about
democracy in Europe...it`s not a God -producen entity, but a result of the
working class long struggle for socialist ideas. These ideas are today on
the defensive by Clinton-like Socialdemocrats clinging to perliamentary
power, forgetting about the hard learned lessons of class struggle. Look to
Sweden and Denmark to witness the ideological collapse of
Socialdemocracy.....!

Marx didn`t say anything about democracy being the opiate of the masses!
What he said is that bourgeois rule is clouded in ideas of being the best
of all worlds...and he tried to demystify this illusion...bringing forward
the hopes of the dispossessed working masses....and is hated still today
for these ideas!

Solidarity

John Graversgaard
Aarhus 
Denmark
homepage: 
http://hjem.get2net.dk/graversgaard



> Fra: Christoph Reuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Victor Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Emne: Re: Democracy is the opiate of the masses.
> Dato: 25. februar 1999 21:28
> 
> Victor Milne wrote:
> > So far as I know, democracy is working passably well in some countries
such
> > as the Scandinavian nations and the Netherlands. So maybe Jay's notion
of
> > democracy is limited to what's found in the USA--and I'll admit that
what we
> > have in Canada is only modestly better and has been deteriorating.
> 
> Since the Scandinavian nations (except Norway) and the Netherlands are
now
> in the EU, democracy is 'working' less and less in them.  All important
> decisions are increasingly "shifted" to Brussels and [thus] the
international
> big biz.  ("The United States of Europe" is the aim, remember.)
> Oligarchy with a democratic face (makEUp) is a more elegant way of
> "managing the herd animals" than plain sincere scientocracy...
> 
> --Chris
> 
> 

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