Eva Durant wrote:
> How successful the aformentioned people would have been
> sustaining the same human-densities as what the "west"
> attempted past/present to support?
Do you know the densities of the valley of Mexico or Cuzco?100 million for
the hemisphere with 25 million for Mexico.
They refused the wheel because of the soil (too shallow) and
didn't import the Llama because the feet destroyed the soil.
Today Mexico is as they predicted. What was a garden is
now a desert, populated by millions because of a temporary
glitch in history rather than balance. They had plenty of
practice. There had been four previous failures all listed
in the Aztec Codexes. Who knows how much more data
there was burned by the church?
> What is the point of
> digging up old recepees that sufficed the requirments
> of past communities?
That is a strange argument.
> We have to solve todays problems,
> with todays technology and today's scientific and ethical
> awareness of the importance of the environment.
What I pointed out was that the lesson was not new butold. That the
issues of living in the present are tied to
knowledge and understanding of the past while adding
creatively to the future.
> We have to respond to our reality, not to a virtual
> world - whether past or imaginary.
Ignorance is ignorance whether past or imaginary.
> We need to develop the social structure that is able
> and motivated to be longsighted, coherent,
> consistent, integrated/cooperative for planning
> to cater for the present populations with the
> projected (hoped for?) levelling out of populations.
Talent is not level, nor is knowledge. The problem withyour idea of
democracy is that the ignorant seem to have
the same rights to plan the future as the knowledgeable.
Such projection does not create answers but chaos.
I've liked your last few posts but we seem to have come
full circle. The mountain of knowledge is not scaled with
opinions but a history map of actions that have been
successful.
Neither left nor right is more than half an answer. Today
we too often plan the future with the failures of the recent
past. Would that we would plan with the successes of the
whole past instead.
We still put our pants on one leg at a time.
REHPS. Yesterday I saw a recent ad from an agricultural
mega company where they too are extolling the virtues
of the digging stick over the plow. Fancy that. Next
thing you know they will be writing books about food
combining for specific areas, climates and genetics.
Naw! That would go too far. Positively Anti-Aristotilian.
> > a digging stick rather than the deep or shallow plow. We might
> > also consider why the Incas developed and used so many different
> > varieties of potatoes or why the buffalo were so important to the
> > plains as well as the cholesterol and and fat in the diet of the
> > Cheyenne.
> >
> > After that, one might reflect on the meaning of art and culture
> > and why John Fire Lame Deer claimed that the only Europeans
> > capable of understanding the way Indians perceived(in developing
> > that 70% of the world's foodstuffs) were the European souls
> > found in the throes of artistic talent.
> >
> > Yes Susan, the ground is alive and when we dance in the Spring
> > we must walk lightly for all of the babies who are being born
> > and grown that we might also live. And when you kill to eat, always
> > sacrifice a part of your meat and drink to the spirit of life and all
> > who now will live through you.
> >
> > REh
> >
