Johnny Holiday said: (snip)

> Technocracy contends that to understand today’s society, one must have
> an understanding of how our age differs from those of yesterday. Part of
> the organization’s research: Since the dawn of civilization, mankind has
> lived in primitive societies and austerity was an imposed condition that
> only a limited few could escape from. Conditions were barbaric with
> scarcity of the wherewithal of life as the main controlling factor of
> people’s actions. Life was rough and cruel. Working from dawn to dusk
> and living short lives at backbreaking toil prevailed. Wars were
> constant.

Grossly inaccurate.  Sounds like you are selling something.
The Puritans and other immigrants came here with skills
that were not consonant with what had been developed but
they did not have the technology to live anywhere other than
where indigeneous people had died out due to their diseases.

On the other hand there are many environments of plenty
such as polynesia and the rain forests where strategies were
worked out that included a lot of leisure time.  Europe itself
had more trouble with its political and religious systems than
it did with food and shelter until the great plagues.  But the
short and brutish life described by certain social scientists and
philosophers with a religio-economic agenda has been greatly
exaggerated.

> Selfishness and greed were omnipresent. Nevertheless, there never was a
> lack of self-rightious people preaching and preaching. They might as
> well have been preaching to the wind as far as changing human being’s
> behavior. Why?

Actually they absorbed the older behaviour like theMithrians and the Celts
because their cultures worked.
Even the Roman Catholic Cardinal's hat is of Mithric
origin not to mention the four directional shaman's
circle found around the world including the Sistine
Chapel.  As for wars, over the last thousand years
it has been about one war every 25 years on average.
The invention of canning and the importation of certain
foods like potatos from the Americas, made European
armies more able to travil than before.  That and the
new rifle technology speeded up the occurance of
wars into the modern age.  But there are many who
know more about this than I on this list.  I'm just the
local art's administrator.

> Technocracy finds that the environment dictates behavior.

Yes but........

> In scarcity
> conditions, selfishness and greed are the major components of the
> prevailing drive for survival.

Actually there is quite a bit of research to the contrary.It seems that
scarcity creates teams as strategies
for survival.

> Yes, one strived for one’s family to
> live. If your neighbor could or couldn’t live, that was up for grabs.

I'm sure this was true in societies that were broken downby stress from
plagues, wars, oppresive political systems
or proscylitization,  but generally this is over simple.

> There was hardly a year that some war was not being fought somewhere.

one every 25 years on the average in Europe.  As for thepre-contact America,
the histories are all myth.  They
don't have a clue and don't bother them.  It upsets
their forcing others to play out their fantasies.   First
it was the White Man's Burden, then it was animal
experimentation and now it is robotics.  Each makes it
easy to avoid learning one's self.


> Technocracy advises North Americans that today we have the wherewithal
> to turn yesterday’s way of life completely on its head.
> Science/technology, not politics, makes this possible. But to turn life
> on its head, we have to make a huge change. The change involved has
> nothing to do with morality nor with an attempt to bring into existence
> a Utopia. Such thinking belongs to dreamers.

Cute.  You may have something worthwhile but yourlanguage is not up to your
claims.

> We must initiate a social structure that is compatible with modern
> times, with our scientific-technological age. Technocracy has laid out a
> design of social operation meets modern day requirements. The design is
> called Technocracy’s Technological Social Design. Check it out.

Where is it?  I looked up the Technocracy web site and didn't
find it.

REH

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