I don't get the point. The man who organized "Move On" was not a politician. All you have to have is the willingness to sacrifice, get up off your butt and get to work changing the system. The parties are incredibly fragile. If I were a politician I would do like that Democrat from Texas who became a Republican or Mayor Bloomberg. Join the Republicans and work as a virus from within. They are incredibly afraid of that and they are right. That is the way that they have achieved thus far. What you need is joy in doing it, abandon and a ruthless courage, like Tom DeLay. He is an idiot savant whose achilles heel is his religion. I would attack that by working on how bad a Christian he really is. But neither right or left is willing to be foot soldiers or scouts. Everyone wants to be a chief and blame the system because they are doing as little as possible to satisfy their greed. No one really fights. That's economics and it needs fixing and you are an economist. No attacks Harry for his creative greed because everyone believes it. You're all cynics. BI gifting is a good idea but it takes a lot of education or you will end up with the reservation mentality dependant on government rations. No one talks about that. Everyone likes to blame the recipient but it is easier for us to have them in poverty and addicted to their basic income than to have them running casinos. That's the nuttiness of the culture and it ain't Indian.
REH ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details.... > I see them as Mafia families intent on distributing goodies to their > followers, oblivious to the fact that they are there to govern. > > Well maybe the Godfather did govern wisely but sure beat up the other > families. Ordinary citizens are caught in the crossfire of the two > families, but in our case its not a crossfire of bullets, but of B---S---. > > arthur > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 11:20 AM > To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details.... > > > Well, when the culture is nuts, all you have left is families. > > REH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:40 AM > Subject: RE: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details.... > > > > I don't see them as teams. I see them as competing Mafia families. > > > > arthur > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2004 2:11 PM > > To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details.... > > > > > > Think of them all as teams Arthur. A chaotic team against the highly > > organized Republican monolith would get nowhere. What do you want, a > > planet ruined by pollution and blatent short term self interest. It > would > > make a lousy system anyplace because it uses everything up. Gore could > > have resigned but then who wants to see your team lose 70 to zip because > > your star fumbled the ball. I didn't bring game theory into this, your > > profession did. If you don't like it then get up off of your duff and > fix > > it. Just complaining about it is beneathe you. Nader was a virus. > > > > That's my opinion. > > > > REH > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:41 AM > > Subject: RE: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details.... > > > > > > > For me the crowning moment was turning on the TV during the impeachment > > days > > > and seeing Gore acting as cheerleader on the White House lawn with a > > chorus > > > of democrats. That was the time for him to have stepped back. > > > > > > As to Nader, well, as Fidel Castro says, "history will redeem me." > Let's > > > let history judge Nader or rather, if will, Nadir. Probably the nadir > of > > > the dems. Can only go up now. > > > > > > ps. Brad, I guess you would never vote Green, or would you?? > > > > > > arthur > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 8:53 PM > > > To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details.... > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > And if Mr. Gore had not been such a relentless sycophant of Mr. > Clinton > > > and > > > > co., then perhaps the outcome might have been different. My gosh, > > perhaps > > > > Mr. Gore might have even won in his home state. Perhaps other > Americans > > > too > > > > were looking for more leadership and less me-tooism. > > > > > > Gee, I had the impression it was the other way around: That Gore > > > may have lost because he tried to *distance* himself from > > > Clinton -- that he wouldn't let Clinton really campaign for > > > him [Gore], etc. > > > > > > I think Gore *disdained* Clinton, and > > > that he was too idealistic to swallow his pride and focus on > > > *winning* by all means necessary. I think Gore couldn't > > > stomach riding into the White House on pig-back, so he > > > didn't get there at all. Unrealistically, > > > Gore may have thought the country would elect him > > > for his substantive character, his commitment to > > > public service and the common good, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > I think Mr. Nader did a fine job and woke up the Dems. > > > > > > I see no evidence of this. Nadir should have stuck > > > with automobile safety, and maybe he could have dug up some > > > dirt of a different kind of "spoiler" that one sometimes sees > > > on the rear of "performance" cars.... > > > > > > But perhaps worse than Nadir himeslf, were/are the > > > people who voted for him and who still think > > > *they* did the right thing. I may personally know one > > > of these self-righteous superior beings who either is incapable > > > of or refuses to see negative externalities of their behavior. > > > The one I may know goes about their days surrounded by > > > a halo of good fellow-feelings from everyone around > > > them. And this one did, in fact, do nothing [materially] bad, > > > since they cast their Nadir vote in a state other > > > than Florida. > > > > > > Winning isn't everything. > > > Being declared the winner is, by George! > > > (--Apocryphal) > > > > > > \brad mccormick > > > > > > > > > > > arthur > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 5:57 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : Memoirs of a 'Racketeer > for > > > > Capitalism' > > > > > > > > > > > > mcandreb wrote: > > > > > > > >>The more things change... > > > >> > > > >>Happy New Year, > > > >>Brian McAndrews > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>---------------------------------- > > > >>Published on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 by CommonDreams.org > > > >>Memoirs of a 'Racketeer for Capitalism' > > > >>by Ralph Nader > > > >> > > > >>Perusing through a history book as a college student, I came across a > > > >>jolting declaration in a footnote by one of the most highly decorated > > > >>soldier of the twentieth century. He said: "I spent 33 years in the > > > >>Marines, most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big > business, > > > >>for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for > > > >>Capitalism." > > > >> > > > >>Those words and more were spoken and written by Brigadier General > > > >>Smedley D. Butler. At the time I wondered why more was not made in the > > > >>historical accounts of the early decades of the 20th century. > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > This is really "neat". Thank you for posting it. > > > > > > > > But I think Mr. Nadir is a hypocrite (unless he's stupid > > > > like Bush). Mr .Nadir turned > > > > out to be responsible for making George W Bush our president > > > > and he has shown no shame about what he did. I think Mr. Nadir > > > > understands "negative externalities" in industry. Can't he > > > > understand that there can also be negative externalities to > > > > Holier-than-thou moral crusades? I have read that Gandhi > > > > knew his "non-violent" protest would likely produce > > > > violence, which, people not generally attending to > > > > negative externalities, he could deny responsibility for. > > > > So Mr. Nadir can deny responsibility for Bush's > > > > domestic and foreign policy policies. Sounds like > > > > a man who is unsafe at any speed, to me, sine he is not > > > > looking in his side or his rear view mirors. > > > > > > > > Mr. Nadir is perhaps a bit like a character in Hermann Broch's > > > > novel _The Sleepwalkers_. This person is a lowly bookkeeper, > > > > who is determined to balance the books of is society. > > > > This leads to the most constructive person in the book > > > > committing suicide. But, Mr. Nadir, you don't > > > > need to have any culture or couth -- just observe > > > > the negative externalities your behavior has produced > > > > at their own level of social integration, > > > > and, since actually proves possibility, may produce > > > > more of in future. > > > > > > > > Mr. Nadir did not pass the Florida 2000 Prsidential election > > > > crash test. It would be OK for him to say: "Gee, folks, > > > > I really f-cked up bad. I didn't think about the > > > > possible consequenes of my behavior. [As Creon says > > > > in Sophocles' _Antigone_:] All understood, too late. > > > > Hand me the sword." > > > > > > > > \brad mccormick > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Let your light so shine before men, > > > that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16) > > > > > > Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21) > > > > > > <![%THINK;[SGML+APL]]> Brad McCormick, Ed.D. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Visit my website ==> http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Futurework mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
