Now, now.  Swiss law was such that good people really couldn't help the
refugees.  In fact Swiss law was aimed against granting asylum.  (OK to
trade with the Germans, however)

Read on.  Interesting. Schizophrenic, perhaps??

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New Swiss Law Pardons Those Who Aided Jews 

Agence France-Presse 
2 January 2004
The New York Times

GENEVA, Jan. 1 -- A new law took effect on Thursday pardoning Swiss citizens
who were penalized -- even jailed -- for helping Jews escape from Nazi
Germany, nearly six decades after the fact and too late for many who died
with the burden of misplaced shame. 

Their crime was considered a violation of the neutrality of this
land-locked, mountainous country bordering Germany -- a stance that
disclosures over the last decade have shown was not so sacrosanct as once
thought. 

The new law acknowledges that these so-called offenders ''acted out of
altruism'' and many ''fell into total misery after their condemnation,''
according to comments by the Swiss Federal Council, or government. 

As of Thursday, those sentenced for having helped victims of the Nazi
government can now ask to have the judgment annulled, the Swiss Justice
Ministry said. 

They or their surviving relatives have five years to do so, for any judgment
involving the period from 1933 -- when Hitler took power in Germany -- until
the end of World War II in 1945. 

Though the aggrieved parties' court records will be cleared, they will have
no claim to any financial compensation, the ministry said. 

According to historians, several hundred Swiss citizens lost their jobs and
were fined and some were sent to prison for helping victims of Nazi
oppression flee Germany or for offering them shelter in Switzerland. 

During World War II, Switzerland officially took in about 300,000 refugees
but it turned away at least 20,000 others, most of them Jewish. 

Switzerland's president apologized for the country's wartime refugee policy
in 1994, before the extent of its impact was fully acknowledged. 

A subsequent five-year inquiry into concessions that Switzerland made to
survive as a neighbor of Nazi Germany showed that the government preached a
form of neutrality that it did not always practice. 

The 600-page report, released in March, revealed that Switzerland's
political and economic establishment contributed to the Holocaust and the
Nazi war machine. 

''The refugee policy of our authorities contributed to the most atrocious of
Nazi objectives -- the Holocaust,'' said a Swiss historian, Jean-Francois
Bergier, who led the inquiry. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 7:54 PM
To: 'Christoph Reuss'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Futurework] FT PR vs. Historical Facts (was Re: "Survivor"
-- FT PR vs. Human Nature)


Chris,

You are too young to remember, but in the thirties lots of people
were pro Nazi, because Germany seemed to be doing so well in a
world racked by depression.

Germans overseas were particularly supportive of Hitler. I would
have expect you to have a flourishing 5th Column in Switzerland.
Some 65% of the population were of German extraction. I don't
think that most people were aware of the dark underside of
Nazism, but the propaganda that showed Germany arising from the
depression with low (no) unemployment, and all those suntanned
blonde Aryans working out at every opportunity went over well in
the international depression years.

Of course, Jesse Owens messed up the picture a bit.  

So, we faced a Europe that was completely Nazi or Fascist except
for Portugal, Sweden, and Switzerland. And we survived - barely -
with the help of the English Channel. But, Hitler wanted the
British Navy so he had a reason after Russia not to attack us -
particularly after losing some  1,300 planes and a lot of
aircrews in the Battle of Britain.

Fortunately, none of it happened. Britain held on, the US entered
the war and all was lost for Hitler.

Hitler became President of Germany in 1934. The war started 5
years later. 

Unlike armed to the teeth Switzerland, Britain and the rest of
Europe didn't want war and weren't prepared for it, so they tried
to make treaties of peace. Had we and the French had leaders of
the caliber of George Bush, we would have stopped Hitler at the
Rhineland in 1936 - but we didn't and Hitler's march began.

You accuse me of "historical ignorance" but I wonder what on
earth they teach you in Swiss schools.

You said:

" The USA "escaped fighting Hitler" for 3 years after he invaded
Poland, even waited for Hitler to declare war to them, and only
entered troops after watching Russia sacrifice almost 20 million
of its people, when it started to look like Russia could win the
war and march on to the Atlantic -- can't allow that to the evil
commies!"

Unbelievable nonsense - Poland was invaded in 1939. Pearl Harbor
was attacked in 1941 about 6 months after the invasion of Russia.
That's 2 years after Poland, 6 months after Russia, but maybe you
can't count. War against Japan meant war against Germany - its
ally.

Before actual war, there was an enormous amount of intervention
by the US - particularly in the Atlantic. Also, the US sent
Marines to Iceland in case Hitler decided to extend his
occupation of Denmark.

But, remember, when the war began in '39 - German forces totaled
2 million, while the US had only 80,000. Her first job was to
build up, which thank fully it did. But, first came war in the
Pacific, where in similar fashion to our war, the US suffered
defeat after defeat.

The importance of El Alemein was that it was our first definite
victory of the war preceded by the defensive victory at Alam
Halfa (we ambushed the Afrika Korp). 

You said:

"As for the British, these heroes appeased Hitler as long as he
was useful as a bulwark against communism (both inside Germany
and on the continent). Appeasement only ended quickly after the
Hitler-Stalin pact." 

Hitler became President in 1934. After a couple of years of
mopping up the internal competition, he entered the Rhineland.
Britain would not support a French move to throw Hitler out and
he got away with it. He had 35,000 troops. The French army was
200,000 but the opportunity was lost as the Allies twittered
instead of acting. 

The Brits and French tried to pacify Hitler because they didn't
want war. (I thought you didn't want war). They wanted the
Locarno Pact people to do something, or the League of Nations.
They wanted to talk Hitler out of his ambitions. (As I said, they
needed a Bush.)

>From 1934 to war in 1939, there wasn't much time for Hitler to be
a "bulwark against communism". You must have added propaganda to
your history books,

In fact, the west didn't trust him at all  after he broke
Locarno.

A month after Hitler/Stalin  the war began. The end of
"appeasement" had nothing to do with the Pact. We were at war.

Aren't you glad that appeasement was out of the question with
regard to Saddam?

You should know that the "British heroes" lost more dead than the
US which was five times the size. The Commonwealth (Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, India, etc) lost another 100,000 dead
while you were busy making cuckoo clocks and wrapping chocolate
bars.

But Switzerland was doing more than that.

Swiss industry was completely geared to the German war effort,
You were in the same bed as the Nazis. Your exports to Germany
rose from 192 million francs in 1939 to 656 million in 1942.

It is almost unnecessary to mention that during the conflict,
Swiss gold reserves doubled as Nazi loot was deposited in Swiss
banks.

I suppose it would be impolite to suggest that the gold teeth
that came from Belsen and Dachau finished up in Swiss vaults.

Or that while American sailors in the Pacific were being eaten by
sharks in feeding frenzy, you were busy making watches for the
Russian Front.

Yet, you were quick to blame Sweden and Czecho for helping the
Nazis. Well, they were trying to save their necks - something
that you didn't need to do with your 600,000 army.

Did you?

Harry

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Christoph Reuss
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Futurework] FT PR vs. Historical Facts (was Re:
"Survivor" -- FT PR vs. Human Nature)

It's a pity that Harry is so frustrated about the Swiss example
disproving his ideological dogma  that he thinks he must libel
Switzerland with injust allegations:

> Don't use a fortunate little country like Switzerland as an
> example. Had the British surrendered in 1940, Hitler would have
> rolled over Switzerland in15 minutes when he got around to it.
> Perhaps with the acquiescence of the population two thirds of
> whom are of German ancestry.

Actually, 600,000 troops at the border and massive fortifications
throughout Switzerland (I can show you around in Alpine bunkers
etc.)
made it clear to Hitler's generals that an invasion would have
been
way too lossy to be worth the try.



Harry's racist implication about "German ancestry" (nazi genes or
what?)
ignores our 700-year tradition of resisting German/Austrian
despots,
of which Hitler was hopefully the final one.

It seems that Harry's historical ignorance makes him confuse
Switzerland
with other small countries like Austria, Czechoslovakia or
Denmark, which
actually didn't bother to keep troops at the borders or even to
fire a
single shot when Hitler's troops came, so they were quickly
occupied by
Germany.  Worse, Czechoslovakia supplied a third of Hitler's
tanks, and
"neutral" Sweden supplied 90% of the steel for Hitler's armaments
after
Russia quit supplying steel.  Sweden also allowed Hitler's troops
to march
through, to occupy Norway.

As for the British, these heroes appeased Hitler as long as he
was useful
as a bulwark against communism (both inside Germany and on the
continent).
Appeasement only ended quickly after the Hitler-Stalin pact.


> Certainly small countries, which not only
> escaped fighting Hitler, but also actually profited from the
> slaughter, are probably in a good position to luxuriate in
> Nannydom.

The USA "escaped fighting Hitler" for 3 years after he invaded
Poland,
even waited for Hitler to declare war to them, and only entered
troops
after watching Russia sacrifice almost 20 million of its people,
when
it started to look like Russia could win the war and march on to
the
Atlantic -- can't allow that to the evil commies!

The USA and Britain "actually profited from the slaughter" a lot
more
than CH did, and unlike CH, they were co-responsible for Hitler's
rise
in the first place (Dubya's grandpa etc. even funded the NSDAP)
and
had an active interest in getting rid of the leading
technological-
scientific competitor of the era.  Why should CH clean up the
mess
that other countries had created ?  (As with Saddam, Osama,
Pinochet,
Noriega, etc. etc., it's only fair that those who created the
monster
should repair the damage too.)  It was expensive enough to keep
600,000 troops (of only 4 million people) at the border for 5
years,
build/extend all those fortifications (incl. fighter airports in
the
mountains), and endure hardships (lack of food and raw materials)
that
the USA never had to endure.  Far from "luxuriating in
Nannydom"...

Chris


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