Ray, I think it's the breast that is calmed by music, not the beast.  But I
suppose that only a savage beast could have a savage breast, so you may be
right.  Or we both are?

Ed


> Thanks Harry.    Music doth calm the savage beast!
>
> REH
>
>
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> > Ray,
> >
> > And what a lovely reply!
> >
> > Harry
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> > Evans Harrell
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:01 PM
> > To: Keith Hudson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Where has music gone?
> >
> > What a lovely post Keith,
> >
> > For me it was the Brahm's Requiem and the first time singing with
> > the
> > orchestra.   We had plenty of first class choruses in Tulsa but
> > never had I
> > experienced the orchestra with the descending three part women's
> > chords with
> > the resounding D pedal point.  It was an important moment but I
> > will never
> > forget the absolutely sublime chords as the chorus rose higher
> > and higher in
> > Schoenberg's magnificent Friede auf Erde.   Peace on Earth or the
> > first time
> > I really "got" the Beethoven Ode to Joy which seemed musty the
> > first time I
> > heard it.   It took many hearings for me to crawl into its
> > eccentricities.
> > I will never forget the first singer that I taught that opening
> > baritone
> > solo too.   I almost cried because it had come to mean so much to
> > me on the
> > reservation.   Or playing the trombone in the Prelude to Act III
> > Lohengrin.
> > On and on.
> >
> > That is the place where I experienced community in the non-Indian
> > world.
> > Peter Drucker imagined the ideal of the modern corporation as an
> > orchestra.
> > If you've never played in one or even sung in a chorus you have
> > no hope of
> > knowing what he meant.   The closest you can get is the imaginary
> > "higher
> > beings" in the old star trek series or ESP.
> >
> > Reading your article I agree that we must stress amateur
> > musicians once
> > again but it must be secular.    It never left our churches over
> > here for
> > the concert hall.   The Concert Halls have died while the
> > churches have
> > flourished.   You can experience more music of more variety in
> > church in
> > America than any other place.   Quite the opposite from Europe.
> > On the
> > other hand such live and participatory music has been cut off
> > from the
> > non-Christian people who do not have this music available in the
> > secular
> > world except in dead recordings.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.  I love my Abbado tapes and there are many
> > singers that
> > I never would have heard except on recording but it was singing
> > on stage
> > with the Richard Tuckers, Cornell McNeil,  George London, Anna
> > Moffo, or
> > watching the great Cherokee ballerina Yvonne Chouteau from the
> > stage that
> > touched my heart and opened my soul.   I can put all the missing
> > parts into
> > the tapes because I played in orchestras, sang in choruses and
> > performed on
> > the stage with the greatest singers in the world from the time I
> > left the
> > reservation at 17.     On the reservation almost everybody did
> > some kind of
> > art.    We all sang, played instruments and did the traditional
> > crafts.
> > Today many families maintain their ties by doing crafts together
> > and
> > traveling around to the Powwow summer festivals to dance and sell
> > the crafts
> > that they make during the winter months.
> >
> > A Doctor once asked me if there were any great American Indian
> > operas or
> > works of art.   I mentioned the Deer Dance and the Navajo "sings"
> > but he
> > thought that was strange.   Opera means "work" and is a
> > multimedia work of
> > painting, dance, instruments and of course singing.    The Deer
> > Dance is a
> > nine day festival filled with all of the above and a Navajo
> > "sing" is a many
> > day solo tour de force of  design, dance , singing and drama, all
> > for the
> > same reason as the original Greek dramas at Epidoris.   Healing
> > the soul and
> > the community.   We have forgotten the reason for the music in
> > the first
> > place and forgotten how to feel.   We have also forgotten that it
> > takes
> > great skill and development to do both in the more advanced
> > disciplines.
> >
> > That is the one place where I disagree with your article.   I
> > find the music
> > of the composers that he thought failures to be as beautiful and
> > enriching
> > as the "old favorites" that he mentions as well.  In fact I find
> > the newer
> > works indicative of the time from which they are drawn and that
> > for me is
> > what a large part of it is all about.   I'll never forget an
> > audience
> > weeping at a Holocaust minimalist piece at the Guggenheim.    It
> > was
> > minimal, simple in concept but incredible in execution.   The
> > dancer ran up
> > and down a ramp as fast as she could for almost thirty minutes.
> > The ramp
> > was wood and resounded with her feet as a drum as the history of
> > the
> > holocaust was projected on Frank Lloyd Wright's white walls of
> > the museum.
> > At first it was annoying, in the end the actual devastating
> > fatigue of the
> > dancer as she simply ran up and down, changing directions at each
> > end was a
> > inescapable for us as for her.    Her task (a part of the
> > aleatory art form
> > since it was filled with chance decisions unthought before hand)
> > and the
> > reality of the banality of her task along with the inescapable
> > reality
> > translated as being trapped, courageous, determined and for a
> > moment
> > connected us to the reality of a truly trapped individual with
> > our being
> > guards who made her continue to the end.    The parallel was
> > devastating as
> > the entire audience wept no matter what people they were from.
> >
> > What are the physical forms of the theater and their meanings?
> > The
> > orchestra is the underworld that feeds the themes of life to the
> > people on
> > the stage while the audience is the angels or demons who
> > determine the
> > success or failure of actual performance.   Something that we
> > learn about
> > life and transfer into our own world as humanity.   Who has not
> > enjoyed and
> > learned from Baron Ochs and the Marshallin in the last act of Der
> > Rosencavellier as he realizes that she has had a tryst with
> > Octavian but is
> > unable to turn it to his own advantage and the heavenly trio that
> > follows as
> > the Marshallin gives up her 17 year old lover to his new wife?
> > What do we
> > learn about the culture of the Ottoman Empire and the little
> > turbaned
> > servant who leaves nothing behind to be used against his mistress
> > at the
> > end?
> >
> > Last night I went to the "Wagner like" movie "Return of the King"
> > the third
> > of the Tolkien trilogy.   It was thrilling although more than a
> > little
> > stereotypical and racist in the attitudes of Tolkien its author.
> > The
> > inferior human races were of course the only turbaned and black
> > faces in the
> > film while the elves were gorgeous white faces mostly blond.
> > Remember
> > this wasn't historical Europe but the pre-world "Middle Earth."
> >
> > Of course it was wonderful to see the little hobbits dreaming of
> > undiscovered American Indian strawberries and bringing in a huge
> > pumpkin
> > also developed by American Indian agricultural scientists not in
> > the
> > pre-world but in the historical present.   But those are little
> > things
> > probably not thought about in Tolkien's English world.   But it
> > was a grand
> > story with great computer human mixes and all on the huge I Max 5
> > story tall
> > screen.   Fairy Liv Tyler speaking Gaelic was gorgeous and the
> > mountains of
> > New Zealand are amazing.   The orchestra was fun and the fight
> > scenes were
> > OK, although nothing of the kind of devastation that I felt
> > reading them
> > years ago.    The little Epilogue at the end I found over long
> > and cloying
> > but the whole film, after the initial enjoyment of the effects,
> > left me with
> > both admiration and an uneasy feeling.
> >
> > The good Sam and the evil Smeagal whose altar ego is gollum same
> > sound as
> > the Golum in Jewish literature.   I suspect Tolkien was well
> > aware of the
> > Dybbuk and the Golum.   Given the other stereotyping and the
> > obvious
> > connection of the Ring to power which easily could be material
> > power
> > considering "eating the forest"  and creating the hellish factory
> > which
> > created war machine in film II.   The Ring could easily be
> > connected to
> > industrialization and economic power and poor Smeagol was taken
> > in and
> > destroyed and turned into Gollum by it.   Does all of that story
> > make you as
> > queasy as it does me?  I've heard the story before to describe
> > Jewish
> > people.    Having worked with a lot of European legends not to
> > mention
> > Shakespeare and the stereotypes from The Merchant of Venice to
> > Beckmesser in
> > Meistersinger, I felt that Tolkien whether deliberately or
> > subconsciously
> > was exercising a cartoon stereotype that I didn't want
> > particularly in my
> > own head.   I don't mind Beckmesser or Carmen because they are
> > from another
> > generation which was more provincial and did not know what we
> > know today.
> > But seeing this film come out in the 21st century with these
> > hidden
> > characters I found offensive.    Instead of discussing it on the
> > various
> > sites on the internet dedicated to Tolkien, it is treated as if
> > it didn't
> > exist.   I spoke today to a Jewish student who had a strong
> > reaction to the
> > first of the three films and refused to see the other two.   It
> > took me
> > three to take offense but sometimes I'm slow.
> >
> > So I went home and watched the real thing, Wagner, Lohengrin.
> > With the
> > passionate Abbado in the pit and the Spanish Domingo as the
> > Knight of the
> > Holy Grail.   I listened to all of the blatant stereotyping and
> > it made me
> > see our Western ancestors once more,  clearly.   Wagner's music
> > was
> > unbelievable and those amazing preludes conducted with genius by
> > Abbado.
> > Even on video it was thrilling.   The richness of the score, the
> > singing and
> > the commitment of the artists made me see the potential of these
> > human
> > characters of Brabant while understanding how such "artistic
> > souls" could
> > have decimated my people with impunity and then turned on
> > themselves in
> > their racism in the 20th century.     More than Tolkien's  simple
> > tale with
> > a lot of violence and crude subhuman characters and Godlike white
> > folks,
> > this complicated story of secrecy and the complexity of what
> > betrayal meant,
> > the loss of power through transparency is deceptively "simple."
> > The power
> > of secrecy whether benign or evil and the importance of trust in
> > the same
> > way that Orpheus "blew it" with Euridice or Coyote did with his
> > daughter
> > here our myths.   In Lohengrin the Gods of the Forest are the
> > evil with the
> > priestess Ortrud standing in as the revenge element against the
> > more
> > "modern" Knight Templar Lohengren.     That was good religion
> > versus bad
> > religion with chauvinistic culture thrown in for spice, but this
> > "racist
> > issue awareness" is new.
> >
> > What became accepted was the "problem" of the other, the
> > conquered, the
> > inferior, the Smeagal the gollum, the evil spirit.    Blacks
> > moved from the
> > pre-history riders of Mastodons in Tolkien to the little black
> > turbaned
> > footboy in Rosencavallier.   Rosencavallier is older but the
> > point is still
> > the same.   He moves from terrorist to controlled child.   Racism
> > then is
> > diffused.   Its just economics and Anti-semitism, racism,
> > religious
> > intolerance becomes a tool for politics.
> >
> > How easily we complain about racism in politics like David
> > Brooks, in
> > today's NYTimes, assigning anti-Semitism to those who see a
> > connection
> > between the writers who cut their teeth in the Jewish Commentary
> > magazine
> > and who to a man have provided a rational for the war in Iraq.
> > Calling
> > them Jewish is true since most of them wrote for a conservative
> > Jewish
> > magazine.   Calling them Jewish in their cause is not true unless
> > you have
> > never heard of Tikkun which is more representitive of American
> > Jewery
> > although most Jews in America support Israel.    Wrapping
> > neo-conservative
> > in Judaism is just as racist as wrapping Tom DeLay and GWB in the
> > American
> > flag or worse Christianity.   But racism is a real issue and it
> > goes far
> > beyond such trivializing.   The attitude towards Iraq is
> > genuinely
> > culturally chauvinistic since the people advocating the war are
> > appalling in
> > their ignorance of Islamic culture or even the Arab languages.
> > It is one
> > thing to indiscriminately retaliate against a state or group that
> > attacks
> > you as in 9/11, it is quite another just to pick someone and
> > pronounce them
> > more evil than the rest in spite of their history and their
> > relationship to
> > you.   Death is death.   If you kill children from the air or
> > throw them off
> > buildings they are still dead and in the service of what you want
> > to
> > accomplish.   Both are evil acts.   And I do believe in evil.
> > But I am a
> > man of the theater.
> >
> >
> > What has been missed by those who do not know their heritage, and
> > thus their
> > ancestors first hand, by participating in the same sounds,
> > rhythms, words
> > and feelings from times so long ago?   Is self knowledge not
> > important and
> > does not such artistic experience bring us idenity and knowledge
> > of our
> > history?   How poor is value when it is determined solely by pure
> > monetary
> > profit?    How degrading is it to society when the ancestors are
> > made
> > available only to the wealthy?    That is the gift of the
> > communities of
> > faith to their congregations.    But the glue that would cement a
> > society in
> > all American communities is missing unless they are Christian and
> > can hear
> > and perform the great Western Masterworks in Church.
> >
> > Thanks Keith for bringing this Future work of art to the list.
> >
> > Ray Evans Harrell
> >
> >
> >
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