RE: [Futurework] NYT Series: ClassinAmerica:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:51:34 -0700

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I guess both said much the same thing at different times.

 

Wirearchy :: And ...
... First, we shape our structures/tools ... then, our structures/tools shape
us (attributed to Churchill and McLuhan, and others) ...
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the sift everything experiment » Has the train already left the ...
... least subjectto the MclUhan/Churchill/various architects attributed aphorism …
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IAwiki: IACommonplaceBook
... Winston Churchill, Letter to the Admiralty, Sept. 1, 1939 ... First we shape
our buildings, then they shape us, then we shape them again--ad infinitum. ...
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Many-to-Many: Users Drive Policy
... Attributed to Churchill and McLuhan (and others, I think), and directly related to
... "First, we shape our structures (the last twenty years), then, ...
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SIGIA-L Mail Archives
... Anon First we shape our buildings, then they shape us, then we shape them
again--ad infinitum. ... Sir Winston Churchill However beautiful the strategy, ...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gurstein, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; Ed Weick; Brad McCormick, Ed.D.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Karen Watters Cole; Keith Hudson; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] NYT Series: ClassinAmerica:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

Hmmm...
 
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Marshall McLuhan
... McLuhan's first major work, Gutenberg Galaxy, dealt with the effect of literacy on
... "We shape our tools," he said, "and then our tools shape us. ...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 1, 2005 4:22 PM
To: Gurstein, Michael; Ed Weick; Brad McCormick, Ed.D.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [Futurework] NYT Series: ClassinAmerica:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

fyi
Subject: RE: [Futurework] NYT Series: ClassinAmerica:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

 
 
 

Full Context: "First we shape our buildings, and then they shape us."
... "First we shape our buildings, and then they shape us." ... Thus spake Winston
Churchill on the rebuilding of the Houses of Parliament after WWII. ...
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Architronic v2n2.04
... Our recent experiences have led us to believe that the values that we have
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SIGIA-L Mail Archives
... We shape our buildings, and afterwards our buildings shape us. --Winston Churchill
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Prairie Business Magazine
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... they are shaping a new kind of American culture for the twenty-first century.
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Arthur, not sure about the Churchill quote, but the phrase is usually attributed to Marshall McLuhan, "first we shape the tools and then the tools shape us"
 
Best,
 
MG
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Subject: RE: [Futurework] NYT Series: ClassinAmerica:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

As Churchill is reported to have said, "First we shape our buildings, then they shape us."  Same goes for machines.
 
arthur
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYT Series: Class inAmerica:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

I think machines have become malicious toward us.  They know something we don't.  They have us on the ropes and we haven't recognized that yet.  Try finding something out by telephone.  Machines make you punch button after button after button.  They even make you do it again if you don't get it right the first time.  It would seem that they are accomplishing two things: displacing us and driving us mad.  They pretend to be willing helpers and accomplices, as in war, but are in fact enabling us to destroy more of ourselves with each new machine generation.  With the enormous resources they consume (e.g. suburban assault vehicles) they are ensuring that we will make the earth barren.  I don't know where it will all end, but I suspect there is something truly evil going on.
 
Ed
 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:39 AM
Subject: RE: [Futurework] NYT Series: Class inAmerica:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

Ed,

 

It's a mystery.

 

The copy I sent to myself arrived in color - as I mentioned to Brad.

 

Could these machines be contemptuously playing with us?

 

(Eerie background music!)

 

Harry

 

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From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 4:57 AM
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Cc: 'Keith Hudson'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca; 'Karen Watters Cole'
Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYT Series: Class in America:shadowy linesthatstilldivide

 

OK, I'll continue to use HTML, but I won't use colour, and Harry if you sent me stuff in colour, it didn't arrive that way, and I'll try to say everything I have to say, brilliant or otherwise, at the top and not expect people to scroll down to find me.

 

Ed

 

> Brad,
>
> I prefer HTML - although this is going out in plain text.
>
> I would think that every E-Mail program has an html output
> so there should be no difficulty. HTML makes a nice looking
> and readable  post.
>
> I sent my note to Ed in several colors - and to check, I
> sent it to myself. The colors all showed - I don't know
> whether Ed got my colors.
>
> Keith uses indentation.
>
> When he inserts something between message paragraphs, it's
> from margin to margin, whereas the correspondent's message
> is indented on both sides. This makes his bits easy to see.
> However, this method isn't compatible with plain text (I
> think).
>
> My method is to bring paragraphs I want to answer to the top
> between quotes. But then I have a preference to 'top
> answers'.
>
> I am not keen on scrolling down a long message looking for
> your brilliancies. Prefer them at the top.
>
> I like color. Who doesn't?
>
> Harry
>
> *******************************
> Henry George School of Social Science
> of Los Angeles
> Box 655  Tujunga  CA 91042
> 818 352-4141
> *******************************
>  
>  

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