Yes, this is what people like Samuel Huntington, Jim Woolsey, Wolfowitz, Perle, Bolton, Feith, et al would have us believe. Of course it is only true if we panic and believe them.
Lawry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cordell, Arthur: ECOM Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:26 PM To: Christoph Reuss; [email protected] Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more We seem to be coming to a fork in the road. Perhaps there is no "middle way", at least for now. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more Ed Weick wrote: > During the sixties and seventies people thought they could change the > system or even bring it down by marching, shouting and throwing rocks. > That doesn't work any more. And why doesn't it work any more ? The IDF shoots live bullets at kids who are throwing rocks (and sometimes not even that). The IDF also shoots at demonstrators, sometimes even if they're Westerners or Israelis. Anyway, the article of Olivier Roy is nonsense, with assertions like: > First, let's consider the chronology. The Americans went to Iraq and > Afghanistan after 9/11, not before. Actually, the USAF has been bombing Iraq on a regular basis in the 1990s and in 2000+. The US also meddled in Afghanistan before 9/11, and the ground-troops invasion to Iraq was planned before 9/11. Perhaps this so-called expert should check the chronology indeed, instead of basing the article on untruths. Roy also omits --although he mentions Bosnia-- that in Bosnia and Kosovo, the USA armed, trained and supported precisely this kind of young Muslim losers, in their fight against Serbia (like before it supported Al-Qaeda against the Soviets in Afghanistan). ----- Arthur Cordell wrote: > If its a choice between the anarchy of the market or the anarchy of the mob > after the globalized state has been brought down, I'll go with the anarchy > of the market, thanks. What if this conclusion is the very purpose of the show ? That the masses are willing to swallow the bitter pill of neo-con globalization, thinking that it's the "lesser evil" (sound familiar from a certain election ?). It would make sense indeed, considering how the neo-cons are fanning the flames of this so-called war of cultures. And to answer the question: > If its a choice between the anarchy of the market or the anarchy of the mob Actually, as with the "choice" given by the same source -- "You are either with US or with the terrorists!", civilization has to __reject both__ kinds of totalitarian barbarism. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword "igve". _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
