M,

We had 5 puking 3 year olds so I feel for you.

I didn't bandy around anti-Semitism. I was kidding Chris who
constantly talks of the nasty Semites in Israel - including
in the post you answered, where he likened the Israelis to
the Nazis.

He rose to the bait.

You'll recall I pointed out that both Arabs and Israelis
were anti-Semitic.

Actually, considering the meaning of 'bandy' - I can
probably be accused of being a banderer (?).

If you haven't noticed it, check Chris' continual posting of
anti-Israel remarks. But, then, how could it not be noticed.

He may have guilt feelings about Switzerland's expanding
trade with the Nazis in WWII -- and then there were those
Nazi deposits of Jewish gold - surely enough to make a good
Swiss twitch a little.

As I mentioned in another post, some 30 years ago I set up
an "Arab-Israeli Dialogue" program on Pacifica. We may have
made a little progress since then, but I fear not a lot. 

Still we can hope.

Harry

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> -----Original Message-----
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M.Blackmore
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:04 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Effectiveness vs. Ethics (was
> Re:LondonUndercover Police were Trained in Israel)
> 
> On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 15:27 +0200, Christoph Reuss wrote:
> 
> > The similarities between zionism and nazism are indeed
striking.
> > No wonder -- their roots are the same, as are many of
their
> practices
> and goals.
> 
> OK, discussions along this line make me feel
uncomfortable, and
> accusations of anti-semitism have been bandied hereabouts
...
> 
> But that is an interesting statement, so OK, I'll bite.
What are the
> roots that are the same?
> 
> I suspect that practices of any regime suppressing another
people
> will
> be the same, just varied according to technology available
at a
> particular time, as well as what hedging powers may cramp
their
> style.
> 
> I've never seen the Nazis as particularly qualitatively
different from
> other exterminators at other periods in time, just
inevitably more
> systematic in their ideological and technological aspects
compared
> to
> what was available in pre industrial revolution societies.
> 
> For me the question has been - why the Germans (and
Japanese)
> and why
> not somebody else? The United States pogrom and land theft
from
> the
> locals comes to mind, and the continuation of slavery into
the
> modern
> era in other forms - why didn't that get industrialised
into death
> machines (then, one wonders if it might do so now).
> 
> I'm not expressing this well ... have a nasty fibromyalgia
hit having
> been up all night with puking 3yr old, so have been into
the opiates
> bottle, hence fuzzy brain.
> 
> 
> 
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