Hi!

Very interesting.

I am of course a veteran Corporal of the Home Guard. I was
16  and on a London roof with a 50 year old Ross rifle
waiting for the thousands of 6'6" unbelievably fit blue-eyed
Aryans to arrive armed with every lethal weapon known to
civilized man.

My rifle was equipped to throw a bomb or grenade, but they
kept me from practicing because instead of sending it into
the distance, I would invariably sent it straight up,
whereupon I and everyone else would be running in all
directions.

 Our job really was to try to keep them from moving until
the real soldiers arrived. You are right.  It would indeed
have been better for us to get guerilla training.

You'll recall that Churchill said that London alone could
swallow an entire German Army - something that was destined
to happen in Stalingrad a little later.

Harry 

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M.Blackmore
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [Futurework] N.O. Love Canals & Secular
Inclusion

Hi John

Greetings from an expat Canuck (Hamilton, Ont.) though I've
been over
here for (ye gads!) 35 years now. With a young family (we
started very
late) probably be stuck here, though I'd love to decamp to
Vancouver
Island. Ireland's probably a safer bet. Smaller population
due to the
famine (still) and no hordes of psychopathic/maddened by
fear Yanks
armed to the teeth, just waiting to charge north into the
newly balmy
(and hurricane free) climes. Unless the yellow peril decides
to quit the
Yellow River en masse for that of the newly mediterranean
glow of the
Red River Valley and Lake Winnipeg. Not sure what anyone
would be able
to do about a billion Chinese just deciding to up sticks and
migrate if
they took the notion into their heads! But then, the whole
of eastern
Russia is a lot more accessible and the weather may be
looking up a
whole heap there, too. Unless we precipitate another iceage
across the
northern hemisphere by shutting down the Atlantic conveyor.
Fun fun fun.

Incidentally, what defensive strategies are there for
dealing with a
militant invasion from the USA or from China? They must have
all been
wargamed at some point. 

For what its worth Dads Army would have caused the Wehrmacht
a
considerable problem by the summer of the next year if an
invasion had
been attempted, and probably intractably so by 1942. Someone
once said
that the most dangerous troops in streetfighting were well
trained
youngish middle aged family men with their kids behind them,
which the
Home Guard had become by then. Not prone to empty heroics
but with a
bitter sense of steely determination coupled with a good
sense of
strategic withdrawal leaving the casualty balance well
skewed. What gave
militias such a bad name was trying to play soldiers with
them rather
than make guerrillas, bad equipment, and risible levels of
relevant
training. That was overcome to a large extent after inintial
bumblings
as Spanish War veterans, for example, gained influence.

The British establishment grew so worried about the HOme
Guard's growing
potency into 1942/43 that they started winding it down and
dispersong
leaders elsewhere. Found out that the list of potential
collaborators
and fellow travellers in the hads of theses groups for
"dealing with"
found too many the establishment heads upon the block
(literally) at any
question of some sort of appeasment. The Tory Party and
quite a bit of
the aristocracy might have found themselves abruptly dead as
a rather
grimly determined coup of the yeomanry got underway. Top of
the list was
people like Eden...

In hindsight not many would have been missed from this
little listof
those who would not be missed, and its hard to see what
could have
stopped them enforcing their own version of the war
parliament if
sentiment had led to that level. Stuff like this is
beginning to
circuilate about a bit, and explains cryptic comments from
the rural old
boys who'd been recruited into special operations elements
about how the
County Set would have ended in the moat at the big house in
a quarter
hour of word of any negotions with Hitler. I knew many of
these old
landsmen, many of the WW1 veterans. 

They'd have done it too. Made my spine creep. They would
have done it
an' all, in remarkable short time. Now that would really
have rewritten
the history of winter 40 and spring /summer 42 if they'd
taken it into
their mind to do something about the war and who was in
charge of it.


Anyway, to the point. Unless the water is circulating
passively by
convection, it needs to be powered around by an impeller
(usually) or
pump. And that takes a lot more energy to move a liquid
through
convoluted pipe runs, bore dimension changes, up and down
levels, with
all the attendent issues of flow loss, turbulence and
boundary effects
and zillions of other frictions I know not. Much more than
moving a
fluid like a gas in a relatively straight line through a
balanced or
open flue!! Magnitudes more I would reckon. 

I have no idea of what sort of consumption the impeller/pump
motor would
use to keep a dwelling at a healthy (as opposed to
comfortable) level in
the event of a lekky outage! 

However, of we are talking about outages of under a day, it
must be
perfectly feasible to battery bank enough for that duration,
and
probably more, which can be trickle charged over time from a
surprisingly small array of solar pholtaic panels. If
intended to keep
one going for some time in the case of major outage, then
the size of
the panels would be - weeellll, I dunno, but a LOT bigger!

I wonder if by the time one does that, wouldn't it be worth
going for
community level alternative solutions and doing "local
grids" as then
the collective purchase of capital plant would bring unit
costs down?

On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 09:40 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Malcolm,
> 
> I wish I had more knowledge of electricity, although I'm
handy and have done
> some simple wiring in my house as part of renovations I
seem to be unable to
> have the concepts 'stick' in my mind. So I have no idea of
the wattage.
> However, I've had a new high efficiency furnace put in and
one of the
> selling points was that the motor driving the fan was a
direct current one
> (rather than AC) and apparently that allows the fan to run
all the time
> while consume much less energy than the the AC motor
running only in winter.
> 
> Now as far as marketing is concern, there are already a
number of products
> that use a flexible solar panel to charge a variety of
tools - from camping
> gear (lights, and tools) to battery back-ups. I think the
simple message of
> conservation, easing demand on the grid, emergency
preparedness along with a
> modest government rebate, in a campaign of a two to three
year period, would
> be more than adequate to tip the masses in favour. This
system may be
> sufficient for older and newer, oil and gas furnaces. And
as you say several
> panels could be incorporated to run minimal basics -
furnace, fridge, a
> light or two.
> 
> John Verdon
> Sr. Strategic HR Analyst
> D Strat HR
> Department of National Defence
> voice:        992-6246
> FAX:  995-5785
> email:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Searching for the pattern which connects.... and to know
the difference
> that makes a difference"
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M.Blackmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 22 September, 2005 19:14
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Futurework] N.O. Love Canals & Secular
Inclusion
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 11:38 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > It was the lack of a minimal amount of electricity to
> > keep the electrical motor that ran the furnace. I am
amazed that some
> > entrepreneurial spirit has not create a relatively
inexpensive solar
> > energy
> > cell that could be directly connected to a furnace to
run it in the
> > event of
> > a grid failure.
> 
> Now THAT is a clever idea. What sort of wattage would need
to be stored
> for how long to run an electric pump and the various bits
of electronics
> (our gas boiler is state-fo-the-art installed in May, and
the controller
> circuit board is silly small...).
> 
> What would the marketting depend upon, though? How many
people aren't in
> denial about insecurity of supplies? 
> 
> Thus far UK supplies of natural gas seem OK for the next
decade or so,
> whatever happens to liquid petrol and diesel. 
> 
> But the grid is gonna be in serious trouble due to
underinvestment over
> the last couple of decades. A lot of plant is going to go
past its
> sell-by date in the next few years. And I gather the US
system is even
> more clapped-out...
> 
> Malcolm
> 
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