Malcolm,

 

I am reminded.

 

Eons ago, I went once or twice to (I think) The White Hart vaguely in North London where Arthur Clarke had an ongoing evening with science fiction enthusiasts.

 

Then, I found a shop in the East End that rented SF books. I may have gone through their entire stock.

 

I knew Ted (John) Carnell – editor of the two major British SF Magazines and we would join John Wyndham for morning coffee. My firmest memory is that Ted or I always paid for the coffee.

 

This was before “Day of the Triffids” in book and film probably made John a wealthy man.

 

Later, I imported Ted’s SF magazines into Canada. (I think they were ‘New Worlds’ and ‘Fantasy and Science Fiction’ – but the memory dims after 50 years).

 

Maybe they are still being published.

 

In Los Angeles, I knew a number of SF writers and perhaps the best radio show I did was the panel of Forest Ackerman, Ray Bradbury, Robert Bloch, and Fritz Leiber. Two films had arrived and we reviewed them. They were “Planet of the Apes” and “2001”.

 

It was a great hour.

 

Of course, a highly acceptable perk was free tickets to the films. The special showing of 2001 (16 minutes longer than the released version) was a veritable triumph. Great excitement in an enormous theater in Hollywood.

 

I think that all my early philosophy was gained from reading science-fiction. Two hundred stories would contain 200 worlds ranging from many variations of Bladerunner to the anarchistic fun of “And Then There Were None”. Also, stories would run the gamut from the cold scientific demands of John Campbell’s “Astounding” – later Analog - to the sly fun of “Unknown Worlds”.

 

Early science-fiction was great training for young futurists. I’m not sure about the stuff being written now which seems mostly to veer towards spear and sandal fantasy.

 

Harry

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:43 PM
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Subject: [Futurework] Pandit Nehru quote that hits the spot

 

I stumbled across this in a BBC interview with Arthur C.Clarke, the chap

who wrote the paper in '45 about the use of satellites for

communications - and a deep deep influence on most of today's generation

of senior scientists (i.e. those above about 30 or 40 years of age.

Dunno if he's so popular or well known with a younger lot).

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4309586.stm

 

Anyway, right at the end came up a quote which is one of Clarke's

guiding maxims, which really hit the spot for me. (at bottom of

ramblings!)

 

I stand slack-jawed in utter incomprehension of people who claim there

is a God directing our world (or the universe) or sons of god or

prophets or whatever. Mind-boggling. And then I start getting angry.

 

But the squalid emptiness of modern materialism wasn't part of the

enlightenment outcomes we wanted to see, was it? Something is missing

(yeah, Great Revelations of our Time, eh). 

 

25 odd years ago I spent a fair bit of time hanging around teravadha

(sp??) buddhism, which I found gave me much peace and a supportive

circle, as a young man from a poverty stricken, neglected childhood

background (etc. cue strings) who'd suddenly found himself catapulted

out of the underclass into university (via some unexpected very high

exam marks through correspondence courses as I'd set out to "improve

myself a bit" after engagement with the old union movements tradition of

"talent seeking") and into the world of heavy duty pressure group

campaigning and policy work in environmental and inner-city politics in

London. Rather unsettling...!

 

Buddhism - or my atheistic use of the techniques and often very wise

philosophies, provided a deeply needed core that had been lacking in the

total chaos and insecurity of my upbringing (I think I'll take it up

again if I can find the right group!).

 

In short, I found the "spiritual" element that had been non-existent in

the possibilities of my childhood through to early adulthood. And I

found it wasn't "out there" but within, and out there in the community

of care that extended from the within.

 

I think Clarke is right - this quote captures the essence of the

challenge in our world, if we are to avoid sliding back into the evil

devilworshipping excremental insanity of "religion" (prejudiced? Moi?)

like seems to be occurring in America.

 

""Politics and religion are obsolete; the time has come for science and

spirituality." Pandit Nehru.

 

Yeah, right on.

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