The chief economist of the Federal Reserve Bank district located in
Minneapolis has done extensive  research on the effectiveness of the
incentives.  Result = little impact on where firms locate HUGE impact on
lost revenue for the governments.  The firms laugh all the way to the bank.

Bruce Leier
Aurora/St. Anthony

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:futurework-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Pollard
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 13:28 PM
> To: 'pete'; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Futurework] Send to a Friend: Article from TomPaine.com
> 
> Pete,
> 
> Well said.
> 
> This offer of 'inducements' is now the way things are done.
> Wal-Mart is just one of many thousands of concerns who take
> advantage of the situation. Actually, the offerings may be
> so desperately attractive they would be silly not to.
> 
> Towns and cities are acting out a scenario not unlike that
> which faces the employee looking for a job.
> 
> There are a lot more unemployed (cities) looking for jobs
> (commercial expansion) than there are jobs (commercial
> expansion) available.
> 
> Thus, employees will take any job for an income and cities
> selling the farm to get some worthwhile building going.
> 
> This is accepted as the way things are. Neither left nor
> right look for the causes of the problem. They are too busy
> slapping on Band-Aids to wonder why the Band-Aids are
> needed. The left wants larger Band-Aids, but little else
> separates them.
> 
> Classical Political theory suggests that wages are decided
> by freely available rent-free land. If there is rent-free
> land available offering the opportunity of (say) a wage of
> $10 an hour to the lowest paid workers, then labor will not
> work for less. Everyone won't rush back to the land, but
> sufficient will settle to cause a labor shortage, which will
> everywhere push up the wages of the lower paid.
> 
> The Feds assume (properly so) that the poor give up half
> their income for a place to live. A laborer who returns to
> the land has the opportunity to build his own house at low
> cost.
> 
> I should point out to Malthusians that there is plenty of
> land available. In fact if you divided earth's 6 billion
> people into nuclear families of four and settled them in
> single family homes in the US, each family would have more
> than a hectare apiece (2.6 acres).
> 
> Yet, billions of people are pressed into high-priced hovels
> and slums.
> 
> Why?
> 
> Certainly it isn't because we are running out of land.
> 
> If our young nuclear family work hard and build a house as
> they do, they will not only have a good income but they'll
> have good but inexpensive 'affordable' housing.
> 
> How would they get affordable housing?
> 
> The present high "housing" cost is actually a land cost. It
> is likely that over the years, house building costs have
> dropped - yet 'housing' prices have soared. This is a pure
> land-value 'bubble'.
> 
> Before every depression there has always been a wild
> speculation in land-values. Current neo-Classical economic
> comment is blearily beginning to note this - something the
> Classicals analyzed 150 years ago.
> 
> Will there be a depression? Maybe, but government control of
> the economy may subdue it even as other problems result.
> Classical theory suggests that that just as soaring land
> prices lead to the crash, so do rock-bottom prices allow
> production to begin an upward movement. The economy picks
> up, land prices begin to rise, and we are ready for the
> upward curve toward the next crash.
> 
> However, there is a difference. Large landholders who sold
> land at high prices can now buy it back for peanuts. This is
> a major reason why there is such a high concentration of
> land holding and the gulf between rich and poor.
> 
> I've written more than I intended, but I hope you find it
> interesting.
> 
> Harry
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> pete
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Futurework] Send to a Friend: Article from
> TomPaine.com
> 
> 
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Harry Pollard
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Sally,
> >
> >Yet another strike at Wal-Mart, when the attack should
> >really be on the politicians that give a myriad companies
> >special deals. This has been going on for decades (maybe
> for
> >centuries). At the moment, in Los Angeles, there is a huge
> >effort to attract a football team, with all kinds of
> >"incentives" being offered by the Democratic Council.
> 
> I dunno, harry. It read to me as an indictment of the
> politicians
> who offered the subsidies, at least as much as Walmart for
> fishing
> for them. You could make a case that if the subsidies are
> being
> offered, it is just good business for the company to ask for
> them.
> Of course, a more virtuous company wouldn't do that, but
> what is
> virtue in commerce?
> 
> >Don't blame a company that brings cheaper prices and better
> >quality to the people - blame those bloody politicians who
> >make the deals.
> >
> >As is to be expected, the "meager" wages paid by Wal-Mart
> is
> >brought up - an indication that this is not exactly an
> >impartial view of the goodies that Wal-Mart gets.
> >
> >I will ask again - if the wages are so poor, why do people
> >work there?
> 
> Umm. Because living in your country with even a modest
> amount of comfort and security requires an income, and
> income requires employment, and employment is in shorter
> supply than potential employees. Isn't this true everywhere
> in the third world?
> 
>  -Pete
> 
> 
> 
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [Futurework] Send to a Friend: Article from
> TomPaine.com
> >
> >I thought you'd find the following item
> >interesting:
> >
> >http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20051109/walmarts_tax_on_u
> s.php>
> >
> >Wonder how widely this is known?
> 
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